Chiefs LNBS: This feels like we’re coiling to strike.

**BossChief** · 03-17-2023, 11:19 PM

Am I just a few too many drinks in tonight, or does it seem like Veach is getting ready to take a huge swing for a stud either in the draft or trading for an elite WR or edge guy?

AJ Brown said KC tried to trade for him last offseason, so it was clearly a Tyreek thing and Veach wants an elite WR. He also knows he has a hole at DT that would be playing next to Jones and George…adding a difference maker there like a Justin Simmons or Quinnen Williams would be incredible.

I may be crazy…but I think Veach is itching to add another blue chip guy to this team.

Like…a really big swing.

Guys I can see him targeting for a trade because they become FAs next year…or their QB has a payday coming up and they can be persuaded to move a valuable piece…or a scheme change…or I’m sure some of these I’m just dreaming.

Nick Bosa
Quinnen Williams
Tristan Wirfs
Brian Burns
Justin Jefferson
Brandon Aiyuk
Montez Sweat
Jeffrey Simmons

Or maybe Veach targets some guys he wants and is willing to swing for the fences for that the other team might be willing to extract value while it’s still there like Jaylen Waddle or a Devonte Smith.

Maybe it’s not a current NFL player he’s targeting. Maybe he’s planning on making a big splash on draft night with a big trade up and that’s why the pre combine QnA was built with purely softball questions and answers.

No way 10 draft picks make this roster. He’s stacked the roster with quality starters and depth across the board. Adding quality over quantity makes a ton of sense.

Even using this years 1 and 3 and next years first to move wayyy up I bet is absolutely in play.

What way to introduce a new weapon could be better than the world champs trading up to get you in the top 10-15 picks with the draft being in KC and being able to go right to the facility and meet Mahomes, Andy, Nagy, Spags and Veach right away? Incredible to think about.

Hammock Parties · 03-17-2023, 11:37 PM

The tea leaves in free agency read that way exactly.

They'll get Hopkins and add someone crazy on the DL, whether it's a trade or moving up in the draft.

We're all in this year.

KCUnited · 03-17-2023, 11:46 PM

Hopefully he’s as successful as the coil strike I cinched off at Kohl’s in the Northland this morning

bigjosh · 03-17-2023, 11:51 PM

I definitely think veach has something brewing.

For some reason i keep coming back to michael pittman. He doesnt fit the speed characteristics, but he has elite size and has performed well in dumpster fire indy.

He is at the end of his contract and indy is rebuilding.

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**BossChief** · 03-17-2023, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The tea leaves in free agency read that way exactly.

They'll get Hopkins and add someone crazy on the DL, whether it's a trade or moving up in the draft.

We're all in this year.

I dont think it’s Hopkins. Andys philosophy doesn’t show any pattern of adding older players to his teams…but maybe Hopkins is just different.

I genuinely think we already have Chris Jones signed to a 3 year extension that will clear 17-20m in cap space…but won’t make it official until it’s strategically advantageous to do so.

Half the league has no cap space and a handful of mega bargains will be out there still after the draft and teams will have players to move during the draft we might pull the trigger on.

Buckle up because we’re just getting started.

This place is going to get its ****ing BURST back, baby!

Chiefshrink · 03-17-2023, 11:58 PM

Our QB is soooooooo good that the flip side argument would be for the clubs being approached by Veach about their star players, "why should we allow you to become EVEN MORE DOMINANT therefore we will deal our star expensive players to anyone else BUT THE CHIEFS". I can see this happening JUST BECAUSE PAT IS THAT GOOD !!

**BossChief** · 03-18-2023, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh

I definitely think veach has something brewing.

For some reason i keep coming back to michael pittman. He doesnt fit the speed characteristics, but he has elite size and has performed well in dumpster fire indy.

He is at the end of his contract and indy is rebuilding.

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I like Pittman, but I’m not sure he has the toolbox Veach likes to go for. Pittman is a 4.5 guy.

Hill
Hardman
Toney
MVS
Skyy

4.2-low 4.4 guys

Veach wants a guy that can threaten the top of the defense while being able to exploit the underneath stuff, as well.

**BossChief** · 03-18-2023, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Our QB is soooooooo good that the flip side argument would be for the clubs being approached by Veach about their star players, "why should we allow you to become EVEN MORE DOMINANT therefore we will deal our star expensive players to anyone else BUT THE CHIEFS". I can see this happening JUST BECAUSE PAT IS THAT GOOD !!

Que the Kadarius Toney memes

Also…a guy I can see them trading for in the next year or so?

Jameson Williams.

bigjosh · 03-18-2023, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Our QB is soooooooo good that the flip side argument would be for the clubs being approached by Veach about their star players, "why should we allow you to become EVEN MORE DOMINANT therefore we will deal our star expensive players to anyone else BUT THE CHIEFS". I can see this happening JUST BECAUSE PAT IS THAT GOOD !!

That may be true for our divisional and conference rival teams, but ultimately the rest of the nfl is going to do whats best for themselves. If that means parting with a player they know isnt part of their plan going forward for draft comp they will jump.

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Chiefshrink · 03-18-2023, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh

I definitely think veach has something brewing.

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Buckle up because we’re just getting started.

I really hope you guys are right and I mean this sincerely BUT to my previous post, teams may avoid us just because of Pat.

bigjosh · 03-18-2023, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I like Pittman, but I’m not sure he has the toolbox Veach likes to go for. Pittman is a 4.5 guy.

Hill
Hardman
Toney
MVS
Skyy

4.2-low 4.4 guys

Veach wants a guy that can threaten the top of the defense while being able to exploit the underneath stuff, as well.

I agree completely.

Its just a name that i keep thinking about as available and not super high comp required that could round out the wr room here.

Also of note, juju had a mid 4.5 40 too and the chiefs pursued him two years in a row.

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Chiefshrink · 03-18-2023, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Que the Kadarius Toney memes

Also…a guy I can see them trading for in the next year or so?

Jameson Williams.

Giants really didn't think getting rid of Toney was that big a deal IMO, because of the softness/injury bug and drama attitude that the Giants thought any team acquiring him would have to deal with as well. Well, 1/2 of that is true because Toney still has to prove he is not a "potato chip" with us.

I would love Jameson Williams

Dante84 · 03-18-2023, 12:16 AM

I don’t think Bosa or Jefferson are realistic at all. Those are the guys you keep, the same way we keep Chris Jones.

When we think about the biggest punches Veach has thrown, only the Frank Clark and Mahomes (Dorsey, yeah yeah…) fall into that bucket as far as punches “landed.” He did swing mightily at Trent Williams but that didn’t work out (thank God).

I don’t think he is too shy to be aggressive AF if is at a critical position - QB, LT, DE. I’m not so sure he makes a swing like that for a WR, though next year targeting Marvin Harrison Jr would be a WR possibly worth swinging for.

Clark is the only player Veach has used high picks and lots of cap on simultaneously. I wonder if he feels burned by that, or if he has learned to be more discerning.

I don’t know that there’s a player in this class that we go up to 10-15 for. The 3rd OT? The 4th DE? I just dunno.

Chiefshrink · 03-18-2023, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Clark is the only player Veach has used high picks and lots of cap on simultaneously. I wonder if he feels burned by that, or if he has learned to be more discerning.

You are very intuitive to think he felt like he violated the "Bellichek Rule" of going after high priced FAs. Yes it seems Frank showed up in the playoffs but over all ? I think Veach would tell us he would not do a deal like this again.

staylor26 · 03-18-2023, 12:23 AM

I don't think they make a major move, but I do see something like the Hopkins trade or a similar move that nobody sees coming.

I can also see them being very aggressive in the draft.

03-17-2023, 11:19 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1625912	LNBS: This feels like we’re coiling to strike. Am I just a few too many drinks in tonight, or does it seem like Veach is getting ready to take a huge swing for a stud either in the draft or trading for an elite WR or edge guy? AJ Brown said KC tried to trade for him last offseason, so it was clearly a Tyreek thing and Veach wants an elite WR. He also knows he has a hole at DT that would be playing next to Jones and George…adding a difference maker there like a Justin Simmons or Quinnen Williams would be incredible. I may be crazy…but I think Veach is itching to add another blue chip guy to this team. Like…a really big swing. Guys I can see him targeting for a trade because they become FAs next year…or their QB has a payday coming up and they can be persuaded to move a valuable piece…or a scheme change…or I’m sure some of these I’m just dreaming. Nick Bosa Quinnen Williams Tristan Wirfs Brian Burns Justin Jefferson Brandon Aiyuk Montez Sweat Jeffrey Simmons Or maybe Veach targets some guys he wants and is willing to swing for the fences for that the other team might be willing to extract value while it’s still there like Jaylen Waddle or a Devonte Smith. Maybe it’s not a current NFL player he’s targeting. Maybe he’s planning on making a big splash on draft night with a big trade up and that’s why the pre combine QnA was built with purely softball questions and answers. No way 10 draft picks make this roster. He’s stacked the roster with quality starters and depth across the board. Adding quality over quantity makes a ton of sense. Even using this years 1 and 3 and next years first to move wayyy up I bet is absolutely in play. What way to introduce a new weapon could be better than the world champs trading up to get you in the top 10-15 picks with the draft being in KC and being able to go right to the facility and meet Mahomes, Andy, Nagy, Spags and Veach right away? Incredible to think about.
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Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-1918004 VARSITY	I don’t think Bosa or Jefferson are realistic at all. Those are the guys you keep, the same way we keep Chris Jones. When we think about the biggest punches Veach has thrown, only the Frank Clark and Mahomes (Dorsey, yeah yeah…) fall into that bucket as far as punches “landed.” He did swing mightily at Trent Williams but that didn’t work out (thank God). I don’t think he is too shy to be aggressive AF if is at a critical position - QB, LT, DE. I’m not so sure he makes a swing like that for a WR, though next year targeting Marvin Harrison Jr would be a WR possibly worth swinging for. Clark is the only player Veach has used high picks and lots of cap on simultaneously. I wonder if he feels burned by that, or if he has learned to be more discerning. I don’t know that there’s a player in this class that we go up to 10-15 for. The 3rd OT? The 4th DE? I just dunno. __________________ ..
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03-18-2023, 12:23 AM	#15
staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-1970960	I don't think they make a major move, but I do see something like the Hopkins trade or a similar move that nobody sees coming. I can also see them being very aggressive in the draft.
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