Chiefs 2023 Free Agency - Page 231

O.city · 03-01-2023, 11:01 AM

Figured we could get one of these going as well.

Who's some guys we like, would like to see in KC?

O.city · 03-30-2023, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Money better spent on a DT, DE or WR.

Our safety group is fine right now. But i think you'd like a guy you can potentially develop or at the very least, provide some special teams depth. Im all for taking DB's every year and our CB room is crowded right now.

Justin Reid's cap number is 14 mil next year. So.......

DJ's left nut · 03-30-2023, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

MY next mission is figure out what's wrong with Trey Palmer.

That's the Nebraska kid, right?

I think you could call him Hyatt light and not be too far off.

What I'd have to answer before I got excited about him was what happened at LSU?

Hyatt was a 1-year wonder but he was behind Tillman and Velus Jones who I think are high quality prospects/players in their own right in previous years. But Palmer was behind pretty much trash at LSU last season and did nothing then transferred out.

Was that competition level? Was there something in the system that kept him from producing? Does that something exist in KC as well?

I'm nowhere close to calling him a 2nd rounder but in the 4th you could have something there if you haven't gone WR already.

DJ's left nut · 03-30-2023, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I'd take Brian Branch at 31

God I hate you sometimes.

No wonder you want to trade our 1st rounder away every year - you were just gonna spend it on dumb stuff anyway...

JPH83 · 03-30-2023, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Hyatt is 100% projection. Flowers has already shown us NFL level route running ability, hops, hands, and open field tackle breaking ability and is built much more like an NFL receiver.

Their "tape" is nothing alike and Flowers is much easier to project in the NFL.

It's not to say Hyatt CAN'T be, but we've already seen Flowers do things that we're hoping Hyatt can do, which makes Flowers a safer pick.

And i don't really think their speed is all that dissimilar either.

I'm in total agreement. But I'm also not sure what lesson I need to learn from Watson and whether it's applicable here. I didn't rate Watson, I thought he ran limited routes, had iffy hands and that he could very possibly be pressed to death in the NFL. None of that seems right, or at least none of it seems to matter. It's possible the lesson is - focus on what people can do and not what they can't...but I still have a nagging feeling about Hyatt. What he did he was very, very good at, but it was so absurdly limited. More so even than Watson. And he's a worse athlete than Watson.

Right now Flowers is just a better, more complete player. Entirely plausible Hyatt becomes a better, or at least more productive player. But Flowers is the safer pick.

**The Franchise** · 03-30-2023, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Justin Reid's cap number is 14 mil next year. So.......

And Brian Cook’s number is peanuts. Who gives a shit?

O.city · 03-30-2023, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

God I hate you sometimes.

No wonder you want to trade our 1st rounder away every year - you were just gonna spend it on dumb stuff anyway...

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**chiefforlife** · 03-30-2023, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Safety? What the ****?

Spags loves a bad ass Safety. I listed it like 4th as an option, DE, DL, OT and MAYBE even a S if the board fell that way.

The point being the level of WR at 31 isnt much different than the next few rounds of WRs. I do not see them using 31 on a WR.

Mecca · 03-30-2023, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Spags loves a bad ass Safety. I listed it like 4th as an option, DE, DL, OT and MAYBE even a S if the board fell that way.

The point being the level of WR at 31 isnt much different than the next few rounds of WRs. I do not see them using 31 on a WR.

I'd take a ****ing RB before a safety.

ToxSocks · 03-30-2023, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's the Nebraska kid, right?

I think you could call him Hyatt light and not be too far off.

What I'd have to answer before I got excited about him was what happened at LSU?

Hyatt was a 1-year wonder but he was behind Tillman and Velus Jones who I think are high quality prospects/players in their own right in previous years. But Palmer was behind pretty much trash at LSU last season and did nothing then transferred out.

Was that competition level? Was there something in the system that kept him from producing? Does that something exist in KC as well?

I'm nowhere close to calling him a 2nd rounder but in the 4th you could have something there if you haven't gone WR already.

I see a Hyatt - light as well, except this guy actually timed as fast as he looks. From everything i've read he's projected to be a mid round pick.

A D1 kid who runs a 4.33 at 6-1, 190 and isn't expected to go until round 4?

Dafuq am i missing here. I watch him and still dont know what im missing here.

raybec 4 · 03-30-2023, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Spags loves a bad ass Safety. I listed it like 4th as an option, DE, DL, OT and MAYBE even a S if the board fell that way.

The point being the level of WR at 31 isnt much different than the next few rounds of WRs. I do not see them using 31 on a WR.

This is not correct.....like at all

**chiefforlife** · 03-30-2023, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'd take a ****ing RB before a safety.

OK, maybe they will can we not focus on the least likely possibility that I listed.

The point is if you can get a guy like Trey Palmer in round 2 or 3 who is probably as good as a guy you can get at 31 but is definitely FASTER, then you dont go WR at 31.

Mecca · 03-30-2023, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

OK, maybe they will can we not focus on the least likely possibility that I listed.

The point is if you can get a guy like Trey Palmer in round 2 or 3 who is probably as good as a guy you can get at 31 but is definitely FASTER, then you dont go WR at 31.

Trey Palmer is not even in the same stratosphere as Zay Flowers.

**The Franchise** · 03-30-2023, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I see a Hyatt - light as well, except this guy actually timed as fast as he looks. From everything i've read he's projected to be a mid round pick.

A D1 kid who runs a 4.33 at 6-1, 190 and isn't expected to go until round 4?

Dafuq am i missing here. I watch him and still dont know what im missing here.

Pretty sure his route running is straight garbage.

DJ's left nut · 03-30-2023, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I see a Hyatt - light as well, except this guy actually timed as fast as he looks. From everything i've read he's projected to be a mid round pick.

A D1 kid who runs a 4.33 at 6-1, 190 and isn't expected to go until round 4?

Dafuq am i missing here. I watch him and still dont know what im missing here.

Nobody has any real reason to remember Trevor Davis, but that's the kind of kid I think about here.

D1 kid out of Cal. Ran a 4.4 at 6'1 and 190 lbs. ELITE short area quickness; absolutely murdered the 3-cone (6.6) with a good 10 yard split. Demonstrated good hands and then the mesurements supported it. The explosion scores on his broad/vertical jump said there was a ton of juice in his legs as he excelled in both areas.

Everything about him as a prospect said "this is a good football player and should go in the 3rd round". He ended up going in the 5th and bounced around for a few years before fading away.

Sometimes teams just see shit we don't.

**chiefforlife** · 03-30-2023, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

This is not correct.....like at all

I believe it is.

I say this as a guy that wants a first round WR every year.

I want a dominant, hopefully over 6 foot fast guy that catches everything near him for Patrick!!

I just dont see it happening this year. None of the consensus top 4-5 blow me away, they all have question marks. Outside of Johnston they are all small and not super fast. Sure they could turn out to be good, you dont have to be over 6 foot. We probably wont get a chance at one of these guys anyways.

After that, say 5-25 of the WRs are all pretty darn good and also have a real chance of being serious contributors.

Which again, is why I dont see us going WR in round 1.

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