*** Official San Diego State vs UConn March Madness Championship Game Thread ***

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I’d trade whatever team I root for in any sport to have 50 titles in 100 years if it meant the other 50 years that team was in last place every season.

Sure, but you're not an upper tier college basketball program if you've missed the tournament in 6 of the last 10 seasons.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Sure, but you're not an upper tier college basketball program if you've missed the tournament in 6 of the last 10 seasons.

They’ve won 5 titles with 3 different coaches.

They are an upper tier college program even if their success is all recent.

Titles are all that matter.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

They’ve won 5 titles with 3 different coaches.

They are an upper tier college program even if their success is all recent.

Titles are all that matter.

They were a complete joke under Kevin Ollie for his entire tenure except for one supremely lucky year with a team that was nowhere near the best in the country. To be an upper tier program, there's a certain consistency level you have to reach that they clearly have not.

Maybe Hurley can bring them there.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

They were a complete joke under Kevin Ollie for his entire tenure except for one supremely lucky year with a team that was nowhere near the best in the country. To be an upper tier program, there's a certain consistency level you have to reach that they clearly have not.

Maybe Hurley can bring them there.

Five titles in five tries since 1999. They are the upper tier.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Five titles in five tries since 1999. They are the upper tier.

They certainly were under Jim Calhoun for two decades. Hasn't been anywhere near the case since he left.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Five titles in five tries since 1999. They are the upper tier.

Would you say the royals are “upper tier” of the AL being the AL champ the 3rd most times since we came to the league?

I wouldn’t

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Would you say the royals are “upper tier” of the AL being the AL champ the 3rd most times since we came to the league?

I wouldn’t

Or calling Eli Manning upper tier in 2011 after he won his 2nd SB. There are levels of consistency you need to reach to get considered at Tom Brady and Peyton Manning's level. Same goes for UConn.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Would you say the royals are “upper tier” of the AL being the AL champ the 3rd most times since we came to the league?

I wouldn’t

No. They have ONE title since 1999. UCONN has FIVE. Who has more than UCONN in that time frame? (I honestly don't know the answer)

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

No. They have ONE title since 1999. UCONN has FIVE. Who has more than UCONN in that time frame? (I honestly don't know the answer)

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[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

They were a complete joke under Kevin Ollie for his entire tenure except for one supremely lucky year with a team that was nowhere near the best in the country. To be an upper tier program, there's a certain consistency level you have to reach that they clearly have not.

Maybe Hurley can bring them there.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here other than an anomaly occurred with Ollie winning as HC? They've still won with 2 other coaches in addition to Ollie.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I'm not sure what you're getting at here other than an anomaly occurred with Ollie winning as HC? They've still won with 2 other coaches in addition to Ollie.

Not sure what's unclear about the fact that UConn took a significant step back as a program after Calhoun left. If Hurley can consistently build teams like he has this year, then we can have a conversation about them being upper tier again.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Not sure what's unclear about the fact that UConn took a significant step back as a program after Calhoun left. If Hurley can consistently build teams like he has this year, then we can have a conversation about them being upper tier again.

Calhoun also left UConn on probation and banned from the tournament in Ollie's first year.

I get that UConn doesn't have much consistent success prior to or after Calhoun, but there's literally only 4 programs that have had 3 coaches win at least 1 title. UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, and UConn.

I also think Hurley will be fine at UConn. He's further away from the mess Calhoun/Ollie left him with and they're back in the Big East, which should stabilize them for recruiting purposes as opposed to being in the American.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Calhoun also left UConn on probation and banned from the tournament in Ollie's first year.

And? Doesn't change the fact that his UConn program was one of the best in the country while he was there and ceased being so as soon as he left.

I also think Hurley will be fine at UConn. He's further away from the mess Calhoun/Ollie left him with and they're back in the Big East, which should stabilize them for recruiting purposes as opposed to being in the American.

Could be, very likely will be. But it's not easy to do what coaches like K, Self, Williams, Calipari and Wright have done over the past few decades. We will see if he can do it.