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Old 04-17-2023, 09:01 AM  
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Old 04-17-2023, 09:33 AM   #31
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Man, I thought this dude would be a backup at best in the nfl. Dudes earned it. Seems to be really well liked and he played a hell of a game in the Super Bowl. At least unlike Herbert he got to a big game let alone THE big game.

Overall Philly can’t be disappointed other than that they saw us and not cincy in their Super Bowl. It’s going to be hard to build around him but it’s not like Kyler, Russell or dak where you have to do it very reluctantly.
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Man, I thought this dude would be a backup at best in the nfl. Dudes earned it. Seems to be really well liked and he played a hell of a game in the Super Bowl. At least unlike Herbert he got to a big game let alone THE big game.

Overall Philly can’t be disappointed other than that they saw us and not cincy in their Super Bowl. It’s going to be hard to build around him but it’s not like Kyler, Russell or dak where you have to do it very reluctantly.
The way Jalen runs the ball, this deal has the potential to look very bad for Philly if/when he gets hurt. Shelling out $51M per year for a guy to miss a bunch of games? The danger is there. Hell, we saw him miss time this season. I am curious to see if they stop calling so many fullback dive plays for him.
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Old 04-17-2023, 09:39 AM   #33
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Could be Joe Flacco 2.0...Ravens signed him to a massive contract after their Super Bowl in 2012 and then became a massive liability for them.
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Yeah, I'd be afraid of him running the ball as much for sure.
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Excluding the final 2 years of Mahomes’ rookie deal, he got $194M of new money in the first 5 years of his 10 year extension. That’s $39M per year, much lower than Jalen’s $51M per year.
AAV really doesn't matter. It's the guarantees. And for Patrick, his cash flow is dramatically increased by endorsement deals.

I highly, HIGHLY doubt Mahomes cares about a few million a year. He's just not built that way.
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He got less guaranteed cash than Kyler Murray. That’s surprising. It also puts Lamar in a tougher spot.
If by 'tougher' you mean 'completely untenable' then I'd agree.

Lamar is absolutely rat-****ed at this point, IMO. He needs to get a deal done. The market is set and he's not a guy that's going to re-set it. The longer this goes on, the worse it gets for everyone involved.
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AAV really doesn't matter. It's the guarantees. And for Patrick, his cash flow is dramatically increased by endorsement deals.

I highly, HIGHLY doubt Mahomes cares about a few million a year. He's just not built that way.
His guaranteed money is way short of what it should have been. But that’s the risk he’s willing to take.
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No he won't. He'll have a new contract by 2026.
Yeah, all this talk about Mahomes not caring about money and all that. At some point, he WILL get a new contract.
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If by 'tougher' you mean 'completely untenable' then I'd agree.

Lamar is absolutely rat-****ed at this point, IMO. He needs to get a deal done. The market is set and he's not a guy that's going to re-set it. The longer this goes on, the worse it gets for everyone involved.
His stupid ass just needs to take the franchise tag, play a year with OBJ and hire an agent before the next offseason.
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Yep, and he'll still make more money each year than those other ****s.
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The way Jalen runs the ball, this deal has the potential to look very bad for Philly if/when he gets hurt. Shelling out $51M per year for a guy to miss a bunch of games? The danger is there. Hell, we saw him miss time this season. I am curious to see if they stop calling so many fullback dive plays for him.
Maybe. But it's effectively a 4 year deal.

He'll have some dents/dings in there but if he's healthy enough to take the ball in January, it's not one of those 6-8 year deals that can really sabotage a team.

Given the QB market, this seems like a fair deal for all sides. I mean its insanely high, but that's the market. But the Eagles have some protection by having it be relatively short term.
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The way Jalen runs the ball, this deal has the potential to look very bad for Philly if/when he gets hurt. Shelling out $51M per year for a guy to miss a bunch of games? The danger is there. Hell, we saw him miss time this season. I am curious to see if they stop calling so many fullback dive plays for him.
There’s gonna be a downside to any expensive qb. He may have higher injury risk but he also might be able to elevate lesser talent with his legs better than, say, herbert. It’s obviously gonna sting for Philly but their fans gotta feel way better about this than Lamar or herbert who can’t even win with the weapons he has.

I also wouldn’t rule out that hurts can have a mid to late career McNabb like career. Unlike Lamar and Kyler we’ve seen him grow as a passer.
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His guaranteed money is way short of what it should have been. But that’s the risk he’s willing to take.
It's also irrelevant.

I mean the only way the 'guaranteed' money matters for Mahomes is if his arm gets chopped off. Otherwise he's going to be in Kansas City for as long as he wants to be.

There's no real risk of them cutting him to avoid paying him the last 2 seasons of a deal stuffed with funny money or anything.
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