Give me your true dark horse pick at 31 - Page 3

staylor26 · 04-13-2023, 09:33 PM

Mine is Bryan Bresee.

- a lot of upside for an end of the 1st round pick

- only 21 years old (Veach loves younger prospects)

- flexibility with Chris Jones

- injury concerns, but these are the kinds of swings you have to take if you want a blue chipper

DJ's left nut · 04-18-2023, 08:40 AM

I just don't see a dark horse possibility unless it's an unexpected slide like Myles Murphy (similar to Karlaftis last season).

We've just beaten these options to death.

Crow's guy is about as dark horsey as I can figure because he's the only guy I rarely see mocked to KC but who could fit us well and is neither a reach (Perry) or someone who really has no chance of making it to us.

The rest of these options are either way too early or just wouldn't be that surprising. Some of the DTs are reasonable suggestions just not something I'd be enthusiastic about.

kccrow · 04-18-2023, 01:05 PM

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If both available who do you take Quinton Johnston or Gibbs?

Johnston. I'm a lot higher on him than the pundits.

poolboy · 04-18-2023, 04:56 PM

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I don't understand why people are interested in tight ends. We have at least four future hall of famers on the roster right now with Kelce, Gray, Bell, and Fortson. We're not going to cut one of those guys for a rookie.

not sure about this

Nightfyre · 04-18-2023, 05:53 PM

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Johnston. I'm a lot higher on him than the pundits.

Maybe its PTSD but I see more Jon Baldwin than Tee Higgins.

Pros: He's big and has all the athletic traits. He has a nifty spin move after catch that lets him get YAC at the collegiate level. Terrific acceleration and deep speed that shows when the pads are on.

Cons: He doesn't play to his size (fails to high-point balls and waits for the ball to come to him). He struggles with press coverage, lacks the ability to run sharp routes, and has a problem with drops.

Projecting his college game to the pros, I can foresee that NFL corners will absolutely key in on his catch/spin move and that move will lose effectiveness. As a corollary, will the extra thinking he will have to do to adjust this tendency cause additional drops?

Press corners will absolutely get in his chest and, unless something changes in his game, he will be nullified on such plays. I don't feel he is capable of running Reid's route tree without significant coaching.

He will need to be tethered to a juggs machine and coached to high-point the ball rather than waiting until it hits his chest (this seems like something his college coaches should have been working with him on, so not sure why it isn't there.)

Just my opinion on a few videos I have watched on him. What do you see Crow?

Abba-Dabba · 04-18-2023, 06:08 PM

Jonathan Mingo

UChieffyBugger · 04-18-2023, 06:18 PM

Emmanuel Forbes is someone I've wondered about lately. Tall, fast and a ballhawk at the corner position. May fall because of questions about his wirey frame, plus there's more high-profile corners who likely go before him.

staylor26 · 04-18-2023, 06:33 PM

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Emmanuel Forbes is someone I've wondered about lately. Tall, fast and a ballhawk at the corner position. May fall because of questions about his wirey frame, plus there's more high-profile corners who likely go before him.

In the 1st?

Ignoring the fact that we drafted 3 CBs last year. dude is like 160 soaking wet. No ****ing thanks.

Stryker · 04-18-2023, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

If both available who do you take Quinton Johnston or Gibbs?

Me, Gibbs hands down. Check it...

Grab Mims, if possible, in the 2nd. Just my .02 Imagine a ground game of Gibbs and Pacheco? The RUN sets up the PASS!

UChieffyBugger · 04-18-2023, 07:07 PM

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In the 1st?

Ignoring the fact that we drafted 3 CBs last year. dude is like 160 soaking wet. No ****ing thanks.

He's a first round CB and has all-pro potential imo. Plus Sneed is likely gone next year and we're not likely to have a shot at this kind of talent in the first round next year.

**Rain Man** · 04-18-2023, 07:43 PM

He seems to be rising up the draft charts, but I'll confess to an interest in Zay Flowers. I like watching Patrick Mahomes II put up points like a pinball machine. Is he a dark horse?

Titty Meat · 04-19-2023, 12:47 AM

Mazi Smith

Mi_chief_fan · 04-19-2023, 05:44 AM

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Jonathan Mingo

I really like him, and since I doubt he’ll be available at 63, then I wouldn’t complain

Dunerdr · 04-19-2023, 08:08 AM

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Jonathan Mingo

Mingo has been sliding to our third pick on PFN's simulator, wich i believe was updated recently. ****ing sign me up for that every day of the week.

Abba-Dabba · 04-19-2023, 08:43 AM

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Mingo has been sliding to our third pick on PFN's simulator, wich i believe was updated recently. ****ing sign me up for that every day of the week.

He has been consistently moving up on all of them. NFL Mock had him at 200 at the beginning of the draft season and today he is at 86. Yesterday he was 87. He usually goes before 63 in mock drafts which just highlights his trending up.

His size combined with the skillset is the one lacking in the WR room. 31 may be a tad high for him and some would complain, but **** em.

Abba-Dabba · 04-19-2023, 08:45 AM

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I really like him, and since I doubt he’ll be available at 63, then I wouldn’t complain

But you know some would when Hyatt, Mims, and Rice are still on the board at that point.

04-13-2023, 09:33 PM
staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-2180960	Give me your true dark horse pick at 31 Mine is Bryan Bresee. - a lot of upside for an end of the 1st round pick - only 21 years old (Veach loves younger prospects) - flexibility with Chris Jones - injury concerns, but these are the kinds of swings you have to take if you want a blue chipper
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-890901	I just don't see a dark horse possibility unless it's an unexpected slide like Myles Murphy (similar to Karlaftis last season). We've just beaten these options to death. Crow's guy is about as dark horsey as I can figure because he's the only guy I rarely see mocked to KC but who could fit us well and is neither a reach (Perry) or someone who really has no chance of making it to us. The rest of these options are either way too early or just wouldn't be that surprising. Some of the DTs are reasonable suggestions just not something I'd be enthusiastic about. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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