Rodgers to Jets

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by the steam

The Jets will still be awful.

Maybe, but I doubt it.

Look at the end of their season in 2022; with no actual QB they lost their last 5-6 games, but their defense didn't allow any team including BUF and MIA to score more than about 21 points. And look at their offensive weapons. They have a lot of talented receiving weapons, a possible top-10 WR in Garrett Wilson, a top-10 RB in Breece Hall. A top-10 OL, iirc.

And then they have a good coaching staff. I won't say they're top-5, but they're probably top-10.

It's going to be hard for them to be bad this year.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Maybe, but I doubt it.

Look at the end of their season in 2022; with no actual QB they lost their last 5-6 games, but their defense didn't allow any team including BUF and MIA to score more than about 21 points. And look at their offensive weapons. They have a lot of talented receiving weapons, a possible top-10 WR in Garrett Wilson, a top-10 RB in Breece Hall. A top-10 OL, iirc.

And then they have a good coaching staff. I won't say they're top-5, but they're probably top-10.

It's going to be hard for them to be bad this year.

Their OL was shit last year. They have some interesting pieces that were injured but assuming they are top ten is a big leap.

Garrett Wilson is a good player but is not a top ten WR.

I loved Breece and was higher on him than most pre-draft but he's coming back from a nasty injury.

I'll be happy if jets split with Buffalo this year.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Their OL was shit last year. They have some interesting pieces that were injured but assuming they are top ten is a big leap.

Garrett Wilson is a good player but is not a top ten WR.

I loved Breece and was higher on him than most pre-draft but he's coming back from a nasty injury.

I'll be happy if jets split with Buffalo this year.

He had 1000+ as a rookie WR lets not underplay how good he'll probably be.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He had 1000+ as a rookie WR lets not underplay how good he'll probably be.

I know, I had him in FF.

But a lot of that was volume, they didn't have much else.

He's good but he's not a top ten WR yet.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Their OL was shit last year. They have some interesting pieces that were injured but assuming they are top ten is a big leap.

Garrett Wilson is a good player but is not a top ten WR.

I loved Breece and was higher on him than most pre-draft but he's coming back from a nasty injury.

I'll be happy if jets split with Buffalo this year.

Could be. I'm just basically repeating what Dan Orlovsky said last season. I don't follow NYJ very closely, so I have to take certain people's word for it.

Regardless, NYJ has a lot of talented players and flashed that potential in 2022. Lack of competent QB play was the biggest hole on that team, per every analyst last year. During the two games i saw them play, I think I noted in one of the GDTs that if they had prime Alex Smith they probably would've made the playoffs ahead of MIA.

Maybe that was hyperbole, but bottom line, they didn't need elite QB play, just better than average. Rodgers can easily deliver that much with that supporting cast.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Could be. I'm just basically repeating what Dan Orlovsky said last season. I don't follow NYJ very closely, so I have to take certain people's word for it.

Regardless, NYJ has a lot of talented players and flashed that potential in 2022. Lack of competent QB play was the biggest hole on that team, per every analyst last year. During the two games i saw them play, I think I noted in one of the GDTs that if they had prime Alex Smith they probably would've made the playoffs ahead of MIA.

Maybe that was hyperbole, but bottom line, they didn't need elite QB play, just better than average. Rodgers can easily deliver that much with that supporting cast.

None of what you're saying is impossible. I just remember how the media ran with how awesome they were going to be as soon as they benched Wilson, all they need is ok QB play!!!

Then they proceeded to shit the bed anyway and their other QB's also stunk. One good thing is they removed LaFleur who was a terrible OC last year. But there are ways this could go badly too.

Rodgers is VERY picky about wrs, if you don't run the route the way he expects you aren't getting the ball.

I will be watching Rodgers to Wilson early to see if Rodgers likes him or ends up favoring Lazard (sounds crazy to anyone that doesn't follow GB but very possible according to my GB friend).

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

None of what you're saying is impossible. I just remember how the media ran with how awesome they were going to be as soon as they benched Wilson, all they need is ok QB play!!!

Then they proceeded to shit the bed anyway and their other QB's also stunk. One good thing is they removed LaFleur who was a terrible OC last year. But there are ways this could go badly too.

Rodgers is VERY picky about wrs, if you don't run the route the way he expects you aren't getting the ball.

I will be watching Rodgers to Wilson early to see if Rodgers likes him or ends up favoring Lazard (sounds crazy to anyone that doesn't follow GB but very possible according to my GB friend).

Rogers has been opting for Burning Man/Aya/Darkness Retreats/Pat McAfee in recent off-seasons.

It’s far from a lock that he’ll put in the work to build off-season work to build rapport.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by unBelizable

Rogers has been opting for Burning Man/Aya/Darkness Retreats/Pat McAfee in recent off-seasons.

It’s far from a lock that he’ll put in the work to build off-season work to build rapport.

Per ESPN, Rodgers has begun working out with his teammates already. He's not playing golf all offseason like last year.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Per ESPN, Rodgers has begun working out with his teammates already. He's not playing golf all offseason like last year.

It helps to not be on a team where you are feuding with the GM.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

None of what you're saying is impossible. I just remember how the media ran with how awesome they were going to be as soon as they benched Wilson, all they need is ok QB play!!!

Then they proceeded to shit the bed anyway and their other QB's also stunk. One good thing is they removed LaFleur who was a terrible OC last year. But there are ways this could go badly too.

Rodgers is VERY picky about wrs, if you don't run the route the way he expects you aren't getting the ball.

I will be watching Rodgers to Wilson early to see if Rodgers likes him or ends up favoring Lazard (sounds crazy to anyone that doesn't follow GB but very possible according to my GB friend).

Wilson and the other QB for NYJ were pretty disappointing from what I heard/saw. When they benched Wilson everyone thought White would be at least more consistent, but that only worked for a couple games, iirc.

I agree that Rodgers could well decide that Lazard is his go-to WR, which seems crazy to me, but it wouldn't surprise me either.

Thing is, he doesn't need to put up 4,500+ yds and 40 TDs in 2023. Not if that OL and Breece come back healthy and that defense plays 80-90% as well as they did last season. He can ride that running attack and defense, play average for Rodgers and pretty easily make the playoffs.

[SAGA45]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Garrett Wilson is a good player but is not a top ten WR.

Not yet at least. The kid is NICE. He made Elijah Moore (who impressed in 2021-22) a disposable afterthought and gobbled up that target share like an alpha despite being a rookie. If he develops chemistry with Rogers, he could put up some bigtime numbers this year and enter that top-10 convo.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by SAGA45

Not yet at least. The kid is NICE. He made Elijah Moore (who impressed in 2021-22) a disposable afterthought and gobbled up that target share like an alpha despite being a rookie. If he develops chemistry with Rogers, he could put up some bigtime numbers this year and enter that top-10 convo.

Of course he gobbled up target share from Elijah Moore because Moore soaked up targets the year before he didn't deserve.

It's possible he does well with Rodgers. It's also possible he won't.

I bought Wilson stock last year because it was cheap.

Selling on him this year because now he's probably overvalued.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Of course he gobbled up target share from Elijah Moore because Moore soaked up targets the year before he didn't deserve.

It's possible he does well with Rodgers. It's also possible he won't.

I bought Wilson stock last year because it was cheap.

Selling on him this year because now he's probably overvalued.

Garrett snagged 83 balls for over 1100 yards. He did that with the 32nd ranked QB (Z. Wilson) and Mike White (who doesn't even qualify in the top-38 QBs that started a game in 2022) throwing him the ball.

And the eye test appears to indicate that he has the physical tools/skillsets to be a very good WR in the NFL. Maybe not top-10 in 2023, maybe not ever, but a legit WR1/2? Absolutely.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Garrett snagged 83 balls for over 1100 yards. He did that with the 32nd ranked QB (Z. Wilson) and Mike White (who doesn't even qualify in the top-38 QBs that started a game in 2022) throwing him the ball.

And the eye test appears to indicate that he has the physical tools/skillsets to be a very good WR in the NFL. Maybe not top-10 in 2023, maybe not ever, but a legit WR1/2? Absolutely.

I expect his ADP in fantasy redraft to assume he's a top ten WR. So I'm not buying that because at best he lives up to his draft capital.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I expect his ADP in fantasy redraft to assume he's a top ten WR. So I'm not buying that because at best he lives up to his draft capital.

don't know what ADP is.

Orlovsky thinks he could be a top-10 guy. I haven't watched enough of him to know. From the couple games I did see, he's no JAG. Especially when considering that he had two of the worst QBs in the league throwing to him all year, from behind a banged up OL.

Right now would you take him ahead of Christian Kirk? because Kirk finished 14th or 15th among all WRs in 2022.