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Old 04-24-2023, 09:22 PM  
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Every year the Chiefs are connected, by what feels like everybody in the media, to the best deep threat in the draft. Whether it's Henry Ruggs, Jameson Williams, etc.

Haven't heard a whole lot about the Chiefs and Hyatt, and that makes me go hmmm.

Don't get me wrong, he was mentioned by both Breer and King today (interesting enough), but it was more of a throwaway backup plans scenario as opposed to the headline of names.

Instead it's been guys like Zay Flowers and Jamhyr Gibbs. The thing is, I don't see the Chiefs trading up as high as it will take to get Flowers, and I definitely don't see them actually taking a RB in the 1st more or less trading up for one.

Going into the draft process, many thought Hyatt wouldn't be in our range either, but after probably the most disappointing 4.4 I've ever seen, it feels like everybody has jsut written him off entirely in the 1st round.

What if the Chiefs know they can get Hyatt at 31, and they're just trying to keep everybody off the idea that he is in fact a perfect fit for what they look for (like Williams and Ruggs).

It's entirely possible that his 40 is a blessing in disguise, because I think he's going to light it up if the Chiefs actually take him.
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Old 04-24-2023, 09:29 PM   #2
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Old 04-24-2023, 09:31 PM   #3
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This isn't necessarily an endorsement of Hyatt, although he'd probably be in my short list.

I just think there's a legitimate possibility that Veach and Andy love him, and can't believe that people are going to ignore the speed on tape in favor of his 40 allowing them get him at 31.
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Old 04-24-2023, 09:39 PM   #4
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Old 04-24-2023, 10:13 PM   #5
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The roster is solid and they have 10 pics. It all hinges on whether or not the judge thinks our free-agent tackle is a left tackle. If he is with the off-season defensive signings I think they’re looking at wide receiver. Zack flowers maybe? With a move up? Otherwise they’re going edge
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Old 04-24-2023, 10:24 PM   #6
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I don't know if I've ever seen Veach telegraph "the guy" at WR, or really his 1st/2nd round targets all that much. Hyatt and Scott are the two guys to watch IMO, depending on if it's 1st or 2nd round. No talk about either to KC and both are perfect fits.

I really don't think KC is taking an ER in the first two rounds either. They don't have a need for a starter over the next 2 years. I mean, if a value falls just right yeah, but I just don't see them pushing it.
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Old 04-24-2023, 10:31 PM   #7
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Replace Hyatt with Johnston and I’m there. He’s been an after thought recently. Chiefs not only had a visit with him but he was the first receiver that was at the throwing session with Patrick.

I think it’s Quinten Johnston. Lot of speed prospects available later. Johnston is the best bigger bodied receiver available. After him it’s quite the drop off
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Old 04-24-2023, 10:54 PM   #8
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Just looking at what we have and what is available I believe Mingo and Johnston are the guys we are eyeing fast but big bodied and tall. We don't have anyone tall other than Justyn Ross - I feel like we try and get one of those two to give Patrick a tall receiver. Juju is 6'1" and 215 lbs. If you are looking to diversify your offense, I don't think you draft a type of player you have plenty of - physicality wise.


KT (24 yo - 5'11" - 189 lbs - 4.39 40)
Speed - Elusive

Skyy Moore (22 yo - 5'10" - 196 lbs - 4.41 40)
Slot receiver - slant/cross/dig receiver

Justyn Ross (23 yo - 6'4" - 204 lbs - 4.63 40 )
Speed - large catch radius

John Ross (27 yo -5'11'' - 188 lbs - 4.22 40)
Speed - take top off defense - experienced kick returner

Ihmer Smith-Marsette (23 yo - 6'0" - 181 lbs - 4.43 40)
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JALIN HYATT (21 yo - 6'0" - 176 lbs - 4.4 40)
Field-Tilting Speed
Sure Hands

JONATHAN MINGO (22 yo - 6'2" - 220 lbs - 4.46 40)
Elite Athleticism
Pro-Ready Frame

QUENTIN JOHNSTON (21 yo - 6'3" - 208 lbs - NO 40)
Elite Athleticism
Field-Tilting Speed

ZAY FLOWERS (22 yo - 5'9" - 189 lbs - 4.42 40)
Short-Area Quickness
Instinctual Playmaking
Smooth Footwork

JORDAN ADDISON (21 yo - 5'11" - 173 lbs - 4.49 40)
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Old 04-24-2023, 10:57 PM   #9
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I think when it comes to draft time, Flowers size will cause him to fall to the mid 20s and if Veach wants him, he will be a Chief. I don’t think his size limits his ability to be a dangerous outside WR in the NFL but lots of scouts do.

Hyatt would be more of a Mecole replacement where I think Flowers brings more of a “Tyreek lite” to the offense in a guy that can win on all 3 levels…he just doesn’t have that super rare speed Tyreek had, but he has just about everything else.

He has many of the strengths Mecole has as well as his weaknesses. I don’t see a good route runner in Hyatt. I’m not sure I see a guy that can be effective learning all the WR spots and running every route in the tree and expanding his knowledge of defenses snd coverages so he can adjust routes with sight adjustments that’s required in this offense.

I could see us moving up in the second for him, but I don’t think I see a first.
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Old 04-24-2023, 11:50 PM   #10
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Replace Hyatt with Johnston and I’m there. He’s been an after thought recently. Chiefs not only had a visit with him but he was the first receiver that was at the throwing session with Patrick.

I think it’s Quinten Johnston. Lot of speed prospects available later. Johnston is the best bigger bodied receiver available. After him it’s quite the drop off


I've been pounding the table for Johnston if he falls to 31 for weeks. However, I'm still skeptical that he does.
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Old 04-25-2023, 05:55 AM   #11
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Ehhh. I don’t buy Hyatt in the first. I think there is a solid chance he makes it to like pick 50. If the field stretcher is what your after just wait for Palmer

I would LOVE Zay or JSN in the first. But the closer we get to the draft, and looking at the WR room. Hopkins makes so much sense with the experience he’d bring. MVS is what he is, but he’s the only guy where you know what you’re getting


As for the smoke… our draft crushes have leaked quite often.

Everyone knew we were in on Mahomes
Matt Miller mentioned how we loved CEH
Schulz tweeted about us multiple times with Skyy
Bolton became obvious during the second round
Jameson might have been true.. just wasn’t attainable

Obviously there have been surprises.. nobody saw McDuffie coming
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Obviously there have been surprises.. nobody saw McDuffie coming
? Huh? We all knew we needed a WR. Moving up to around 20 with some of the Hill picks was not seen as a shocker.
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They'll draft the receiver with the largest hands, whoever that is. That's what they did when they drafted Sky Moore
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? Huh? We all knew we needed a WR. Moving up to around 20 with some of the Hill picks was not seen as a shocker.
Hes a corner?
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I think we get Hopkins myself. Bringing in all these WRs is prolly a scare tactic so that Arizona lowers their asking price.
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