***Official 2022-2023 NBA Thread***

[dirk digler]

Can't believe the regular season starts tonight. Just seemed like the Finals ended a couple weeks ago.



Philly vs Celtics: 6:30PM CST TNT

GSW vs Lakers: 9:00PM CST TNT

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Get used to it bc it’s coming to the NFL. The same type of fans that say nothing will ever come close to Michael will say Mahomes can never come close to the alter of Brady.

Jordan and Brady stans are one in the same for the most part.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Eh Jordan didn’t play great teams after his championship against the Lakers. LeBron played 7 finals against 2 dynasties (Warriors/Spurs).

I think most people would take the Warriors and Spurs great teams (especially the Warriors with KD) over the Jazz, Trailblazers, Suns and Supersonics.

Lebron had an easy path through the Eastern Conference from 2011-2018. Jordan had tougher competition to get to the Finals. I agree the Warriors were better than any team Jordan played in the Finals. So that argument cuts both ways.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Eh Jordan didn’t play great teams after his championship against the Lakers. LeBron played 7 finals against 2 dynasties (Warriors/Spurs).

I think most people would take the Warriors and Spurs great teams (especially the Warriors with KD) over the Jazz, Trailblazers, Suns and Supersonics.

Tell me you're absolutely clueless without telling me you're absolutely clueless.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Lebron had an easy path through the Eastern Conference from 2011-2018. Jordan had tougher competition to get to the Finals. I agree the Warriors were better than any team Jordan played in the Finals. So that argument cuts both ways.

Jordan was the Warriors team of his era. That's why that ****ing point is stupid.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Jordan and Brady stans are one in the same for the most part.

Actually, Jordan is much more comparable to Mahomes and Brady to Lebron.

Anybody with a clue that has simply watched Jordan and Mahomes should know that they're witnessing the GOAT. I don't care about the stats, or the titles, they're just supporting arguments. It's all about the eye ball test.

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Why do you have to bash one player to make the other seem better instead of recognizing both are great?

That's what I wonder about every time kcc brings up Curry. Very few people (and none on this board) think Curry is better than LeBron. So why do kcc and Barry go so far out of their way to bash curry?

Tells me they are very insecure in their beliefs.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Actually, Jordan is much more comparable to Mahomes and Brady to Lebron.

Anybody with a clue that has simply watched Jordan and Mahomes should know that they're witnessing the GOAT. I don't care about the stats, or the titles, they're just supporting arguments. It's all about the eye ball test.

I can understand that argument, but there's a huge contingent of # of rings, W/L in Finals stans that LOOOOOOOVE Jordan and Brady being on top of those impossible to climb mountains. And it's also rooted in OLDER SPORTS = BETTER SPORTS, MY CHILDHOOD DEFINING IDOLS v. yours bullshit peppered in there.

The eye ball test tells me when I'm watching Jimmy Butler in the playoffs I'm watching greatness. Don't get that with LeGM. Didn't watch enough Jordan to weigh in there. Just didn't really give a shit about basketball or baseball until teen years in the early 2000's or so. Just the Chiefs.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Tell me you're absolutely clueless without telling me you're absolutely clueless.

No way he watched any of those.series and can come to that conclusion. Just reeruned

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I went to look at WARP just to see how bad ass the Joker is. I noticed MJ probably leads the league in WARP 13 years in a row if he doesn't retire until he is 38. Lebron who has a long steller career had 8 in a row. D-Rob may have gotten MJ in 93 though. He had a sick season that year.

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

These are the only players who have led the league in VORP more than Nikola Jokic (3):

LeBron (9), MJ (9), Kareem (7), Erving (4), Bird (4)

LeBron and MJ had the the greatest and longest peaks of all time. Of course, LeBron has the longevity edge by a mile over him leading to only one conclusion about GOAT at this point.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Jordan and Brady stans are one in the same for the most part.

They are (and both are horribly wrong in their contention that those players were the GOAT of their respective sports), but at least MJ was actually good at the sport he played. Brady was a game manager for most of his career.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Actually, Jordan is much more comparable to Mahomes and Brady to Lebron.

Nah, it's clearly Brady/Jordan and LeBron/Mahomes. The media and a large segment of fans can't accept either one of the latter as GOAT and never will no matter what either one accomplishes individually.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

That's what I wonder about every time kcc brings up Curry. Very few people (and none on this board) think Curry is better than LeBron. So why do kcc and Barry go so far out of their way to bash curry?

Tells me they are very insecure in their beliefs.

Nah, it's more about hating the Warriors and what a disgrace of an organization they are. The Lakers aren't winning the title this year, but at least they got the job done in that regard. No guarantee anyone else would have.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Nah, it's clearly Brady/Jordan and LeBron/Mahomes. The media and a large segment of fans can't accept either one of the latter as GOAT and never will no matter what either one accomplishes individually.

Of course you believe this, you're a delusional Lebron Stan.

You know how I know there's a difference between me and you?

I don't try to pretend that Lebron doesn't have the longevity argument like you do with Jordan having the peak argument.

Only a delusional Lebron Stan could possibly think that their peaks are the same.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Pablo

The eye ball test tells me when I'm watching Jimmy Butler in the playoffs I'm watching greatness. Don't get that with LeGM. .

Nothing against Jimmy (who is a tremendous player), but 35 year old LeBron completely destroyed him and the Heat three years ago in the Finals, FYI. LeBron averaged 30-12-9 on 59% shooting in 6 games in that one as by far the best player in the series. As a 35 year old in his 17th year. If that isn't greatness, I don't know what is.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

35 year old LeBron completely destroyed Jimmy and the Heat three years ago in the Finals, FYI.

Jimmy also didn't have anybody like AD.