Chiefs A Levelheaded Review '23 Preseason Game 3 - Page 3

DenverChief · 08-26-2023, 02:28 PM

1. QB's - Buechele - Okay I'll admit, I really really really wanted Buechele to step up and and steal the backup job. Today he just looked outmatched against the first string Browns defense - some of that makes me wonder if it was working with the #2 OL. The second pick was all on Powell, ball hit him in the hands - gotta catch that. But it is clear to me that Gabbert is the #2 and we are carrying 3 QB's. Oladokun has a chance to develop into a really good QB - keeping that play alive was a thing of beauty, hopefully we can sneak him onto the PS.

2. Rice dropping that wide open catch was frustrating but get it out of your system ion the pre-season. Hopefully the more opportunities he gets he more comfortable he gets.

3. Smith-Marsette is going to catch on with another team and I'm really happy for him - wish we could keep him but the WR room is so incredibly talented and crowded. Maybe if Toney starts the season on IR we can sneak him in as the #7 behind Ross.

4. RB's - CEH just seems blah I'm not sure he even makes this roster & McKinnon is just $ every time. Pacheco looked like he had a 5 yard loss and his hard running got it back to the LOS. It's so stark to see the difference between CEH running vs Pacheco. Perine just looks better than Prince and really bounced that 30 yard run perfectly, the 20 yard catch and run TD was a thing of beauty. Prince looks great against backups - he needs more time to develop.

5. Powell - not only has a pass bounce off his hands for an INT but then a holding penalty on a kickoff, I don't know if we will pick him back up for the practice squad.

6. Bushman - gotta catch those kinda passes - that was awful and turning it over for a Pick 6 is even worse. Nice way to make up for the Pick 6 - not sure he makes the 53 even with his performance.

7. Looked like Kinnard got a lot of snaps, only saw a couple of bad plays from him.

8. Ross making the plays we all expect him to - he is our #7 and it's crazy that someone with that much talent is our #7.

My final 53 based upon pre-season and including todays performance

(3) QB Mahomes, Gabbert, Buechele
(3) RB Pacheco, McKinnon, Perine
(7) WR ***Toney, MVS, Moore, James, Watson, Rice, Ross (***Smith-Marsette)
(3) TE Kelce, Gray, Bushman
(9) OL Smith, Thuney, Humphrey, Smith, Taylor - Allegretti, Morris, Kinnard, PTW

(25)

(5) S Reid, Cook, Bush, Edwards, Connor
(5) CB Sneed, McDuffie, Watson, Williams, Jones** (**Boye-Doe/Hailasse)
(5) LB Gay, Bolton, Tranquill, Cochrane, Chanel
(5) DE Karlaftis, FAU, Danna, Herring, Kaindoh* (*Omenihu)
(5) DT Jones#, Nandi, Shelton, Coburn, Wharton

(25)

*Until Omenihu comes back from suspension
** If Jones starts the season on IR
*** If Toney starts the season on IR
# Traded?

Surprise Cuts:
CEH
Niang

DJ's left nut · 08-26-2023, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

CEH should be gone and keep Perine.
Send Watson out and keep ISM

Doubt either happens

I think you're getting 1 of 2.

I think Perine makes the team and I'm just not seeing a good reason to carry 4 RBs.

TwistedChief · 08-26-2023, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers

Yuuup, the fact that ISM plays teams should be the final nail for Watson

Cheaper, younger, more dynamic... its a no brainer

Watson will probably play teams as well, no?

RunKC · 08-26-2023, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Smith Marsette played his way onto SOMEONE'S 53.

I'd love for it to be ours and I see no reason why we should keep Watson over him. But it sure seems like that's what they'll do.

May be able to get him traded for a 6th or something. He's an NFL player.

Andy just said Toney could practice next week so I don't think they're doing anything with him.

Toney, MVS, Skyy, Rice, Ross, Richie and Watson?

I just don't see them keeping Smith Marsette with Toney and James doing what he does. Unfortunately Watson is trusted a fair bit by the people that matter the most.

Get a free 6th for him. Build that draft ammo bc next year is gonna be a good first rd.

**dirk digler** · 08-26-2023, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think you're getting 1 of 2.

I think Perine makes the team and I'm just not seeing a good reason to carry 4 RBs.

They love CEH for some reason I don't get it. Dude sucks hard

**Easy 6** · 08-26-2023, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Watson will probably play teams as well, no?

He does, but the younger/cheaper/more dynamic thing needs to be considered a trump card IMO

Just like Ross, Marsette is showing up with big plays in every single game... were I calling the shots, its an easy decision

Nothing against Watson, he's been a Steady Eddie and would almost certainly get scooped up by DC... but we gotta keep an eye out for the future

DJ's left nut · 08-26-2023, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

They love CEH for some reason I don't get it. Dude sucks hard

Eh - do they?

They buried him last season. He lost his job to a 7th rounder and was never given even a small chance at earning it back. He was a gameday inactive for the SB - right?

I think the love affair is over. At best they were trying to showcase him for a 7th but that clearly backfired as the guy is toast.

They'd trade him for the last pick just to get his guaranteed money off the books, IMO. But they'll likely not find any takers and in the end I think he gets cut.

**HemiEd** · 08-26-2023, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Smith Marsette played his way onto SOMEONE'S 53.

I'd love for it to be ours and I see no reason why we should keep Watson over him. But it sure seems like that's what they'll do.

May be able to get him traded for a 6th or something. He's an NFL player.

I really hope they keep Smith Marsette and move Watson.

DenverChief · 08-26-2023, 03:42 PM

Incredibly frustrating.

**Easy 6** · 08-26-2023, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Eh - do they?

They buried him last season. He lost his job to a 7th rounder and was never given even a small chance at earning it back. He was a gameday inactive for the SB - right?

I think the love affair is over. At best they were trying to showcase him for a 7th but that clearly backfired as the guy is toast.

They'd trade him for the last pick just to get his guaranteed money off the books, IMO. But they'll likely not find any takers and in the end I think he gets cut.

Yeah we ain't getting shit for him, teams are looking at that guy saying... if he can't do anything with those guys, he's really gonna suck here

**Easy 6** · 08-26-2023, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Incredibly frustrating.

He had a Skyy Moore moment punt return moment, but will learn and bounce back from it

**HemiEd** · 08-26-2023, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

They love CEH for some reason I don't get it. Dude sucks hard

It seems like it has always been difficult to admit a first round pick is a bust.

DenverChief · 08-26-2023, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Eh - do they?

They buried him last season. He lost his job to a 7th rounder and was never given even a small chance at earning it back. He was a gameday inactive for the SB - right?

I think the love affair is over. At best they were trying to showcase him for a 7th but that clearly backfired as the guy is toast.

They'd trade him for the last pick just to get his guaranteed money off the books, IMO. But they'll likely not find any takers and in the end I think he gets cut.

CEH was placed on the IR in week 11 with a high ankle sprain.

*Edit*. I think Perine has shown enough that they are comfortable with getting rid of CEH

DenverChief · 08-26-2023, 03:55 PM

I just watched some of the highlights again - no push up the middle whatsoever on 1st/2nd string Defense.

We are not a power Offense and we have a hard time stopping a power offense.

BryanBusby · 08-26-2023, 03:55 PM

I think CEH is a last minute trade for a sack of dicks.

Chiefs only carry 2 QB's on the active roster. Gabbert won the back up job.

Watson is a lock unless a team trades for him.

Chris Jones shows up next week.

DenverChief · 08-26-2023, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I think CEH is a last minute trade for a sack of dicks.

Chiefs only carry 2 QB's on the active roster. Gabbert won the back up job.

Watson is a lock unless a team trades for him.

Chris Jones shows up next week.

You think they expose Buechele to waivers? Someone will pick him up - I'd almost try and trade him - no one is trading for CEH but funny none the less

08-26-2023, 02:28 PM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	A Levelheaded Review '23 Preseason Game 3 1. QB's - Buechele - Okay I'll admit, I really really really wanted Buechele to step up and and steal the backup job. Today he just looked outmatched against the first string Browns defense - some of that makes me wonder if it was working with the #2 OL. The second pick was all on Powell, ball hit him in the hands - gotta catch that. But it is clear to me that Gabbert is the #2 and we are carrying 3 QB's. Oladokun has a chance to develop into a really good QB - keeping that play alive was a thing of beauty, hopefully we can sneak him onto the PS. 2. Rice dropping that wide open catch was frustrating but get it out of your system ion the pre-season. Hopefully the more opportunities he gets he more comfortable he gets. 3. Smith-Marsette is going to catch on with another team and I'm really happy for him - wish we could keep him but the WR room is so incredibly talented and crowded. Maybe if Toney starts the season on IR we can sneak him in as the #7 behind Ross. 4. RB's - CEH just seems blah I'm not sure he even makes this roster & McKinnon is just $ every time. Pacheco looked like he had a 5 yard loss and his hard running got it back to the LOS. It's so stark to see the difference between CEH running vs Pacheco. Perine just looks better than Prince and really bounced that 30 yard run perfectly, the 20 yard catch and run TD was a thing of beauty. Prince looks great against backups - he needs more time to develop. 5. Powell - not only has a pass bounce off his hands for an INT but then a holding penalty on a kickoff, I don't know if we will pick him back up for the practice squad. 6. Bushman - gotta catch those kinda passes - that was awful and turning it over for a Pick 6 is even worse. Nice way to make up for the Pick 6 - not sure he makes the 53 even with his performance. 7. Looked like Kinnard got a lot of snaps, only saw a couple of bad plays from him. 8. Ross making the plays we all expect him to - he is our #7 and it's crazy that someone with that much talent is our #7. My final 53 based upon pre-season and including todays performance (3) QB Mahomes, Gabbert, Buechele (3) RB Pacheco, McKinnon, Perine (7) WR *Toney, MVS, Moore, James, Watson, Rice, Ross (Smith-Marsette) (3) TE Kelce, Gray, Bushman (9) OL Smith, Thuney, Humphrey, Smith, Taylor - Allegretti, Morris, Kinnard, PTW (25) (5) S Reid, Cook, Bush, Edwards, Connor (5) CB Sneed, McDuffie, Watson, Williams, Jones* (*Boye-Doe/Hailasse) (5) LB Gay, Bolton, Tranquill, Cochrane, Chanel (5) DE Karlaftis, FAU, Danna, Herring, Kaindoh (Omenihu) (5) DT Jones#, Nandi, Shelton, Coburn, Wharton (25) Until Omenihu comes back from suspension If Jones starts the season on IR * If Toney starts the season on IR # Traded? Surprise Cuts: CEH Niang
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08-26-2023, 03:42 PM	#38
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	Incredibly frustrating.
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08-26-2023, 03:55 PM	#43
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	I just watched some of the highlights again - no push up the middle whatsoever on 1st/2nd string Defense. We are not a power Offense and we have a hard time stopping a power offense.
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08-26-2023, 03:55 PM	#44
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3159900 VARSITY	I think CEH is a last minute trade for a sack of dicks. Chiefs only carry 2 QB's on the active roster. Gabbert won the back up job. Watson is a lock unless a team trades for him. Chris Jones shows up next week.
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