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Old 08-29-2023, 01:10 PM   #1
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I don’t see why it would be 4.

The nt types would
Be used first down and sometimes second and almost never third.

You’d really need a lot of de for this type of scheme and maybe 2-3 legit nt fatties
Because ends like Jones are extremely difficult to find, the idea is to stuff the middle no matter what.
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Old 08-29-2023, 01:44 PM   #2
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Because ends like Jones are extremely difficult to find, the idea is to stuff the middle no matter what.
Yup.

Could just be indicative of a scheme shift. You don't replace Chris Jones - he's pretty much a unicorn.

Instead you just clog the shit out of the middle, tell them to shove their asses off, use 2 to occupy 3 and give yourselves a numbers advantage.

You may see some twists/curls with LBs off the edge, but in this scenario, I can't imagine you'll be seeing many interior stunts, etc...

Without Jones, you don't try to do the same thing with a guy who ISN'T Jones. You just do a new thing. That new thing may just be 3 NTs and a guy like Wharton or Dana who can sub in as a NASCAR DT and then you just hope your edge rushers are developing.

Man, they're asking a LOT from FAU at the moment. And they sure seem to be leaning into Karlaftis as a 10 sack guy.
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Old 08-29-2023, 01:46 PM   #3
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Yup.

Could just be indicative of a scheme shift. You don't replace Chris Jones - he's pretty much a unicorn.

Instead you just clog the shit out of the middle, tell them to shove their asses off, use 2 to occupy 3 and give yourselves a numbers advantage.

You may see some twists/curls with LBs off the edge, but in this scenario, I can't imagine you'll be seeing many interior stunts, etc...

Without Jones, you don't try to do the same thing with a guy who ISN'T Jones. You just do a new thing. That new thing may just be 3 NTs and a guy like Wharton or Dana who can sub in as a NASCAR DT and then you just hope your edge rushers are developing.

Man, they're asking a LOT from FAU at the moment. And they sure seem to be leaning into Karlaftis as a 10 sack guy.
This is kinda why this whole Jones thing just seems so out of left field.

With him in the fold, you've got 3 really good chess pieces to move around with FAU, Karlaftis and Omenihu. You've got the new kid they drafted this year to develop as well.

Then this happens. It seems like a real blindsided them kinda thing cause they defense has been really built around him.
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Old 08-29-2023, 01:48 PM   #4
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This is kinda why this whole Jones thing just seems so out of left field.

With him in the fold, you've got 3 really good chess pieces to move around with FAU, Karlaftis and Omenihu. You've got the new kid they drafted this year to develop as well.

Then this happens. It seems like a real blindsided them kinda thing cause they defense has been really built around him.
Jones did that shit on purpose, he let FA and the draft go by and then pulled this, he did it to try to leverage the Chiefs into doing what he wanted by presenting it at the shittiest time for the team.
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Jones did that shit on purpose, he let FA and the draft go by and then pulled this, he did it to try to leverage the Chiefs into doing what he wanted by presenting it at the shittiest time for the team.
It really seems that way.

Which is why I can't imagine them playing nice when it comes to game checks and such.
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It really seems that way.

Which is why I can't imagine them playing nice when it comes to game checks and such.
Had Jones pulled it earlier it could have been handled differently where he was traded or the Chiefs put a higher stake on getting a guy like Keanu Benton.

It was on a tactful move on Jones part, he doesn't really want to play for another team but he also wants Donald money so he tried to back the Chiefs into a corner.
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Had Jones pulled it earlier it could have been handled differently where he was traded or the Chiefs put a higher stake on getting a guy like Keanu Benton.

It was on a tactful move on Jones part, he doesn't really want to play for another team but he also wants Donald money so he tried to back the Chiefs into a corner.
Tactful, no.

Tactical, sure.
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Jones did that shit on purpose, he let FA and the draft go by and then pulled this, he did it to try to leverage the Chiefs into doing what he wanted by presenting it at the shittiest time for the team.
100% and you can bet Veach doesn't like it one little bit
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100% and you can bet Veach doesn't like it one little bit
I'm not so sure, their interest in trading up for Mazi Smith to the point where they were willing to deal a 3rd rounder would lead me to believe they knew what Jones was looking for.

Either way, he's still a dick.
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I'm not so sure, their interest in trading up for Mazi Smith to the point where they were willing to deal a 3rd rounder would lead me to believe they knew what Jones was looking for.

Either way, he's still a dick.
I suppose that could be, but the timing of all this is most definitely suspicious
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Yup.

Could just be indicative of a scheme shift. You don't replace Chris Jones - he's pretty much a unicorn.

Instead you just clog the shit out of the middle, tell them to shove their asses off, use 2 to occupy 3 and give yourselves a numbers advantage.

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Man, they're asking a LOT from FAU at the moment. And they sure seem to be leaning into Karlaftis as a 10 sack guy.
You mean you don't employ Pellom McDaniels as the Falcon?
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