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Old 08-30-2023, 03:26 PM  
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Old 09-04-2023, 09:29 AM   #1006
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Good Lord. So many people who know so little about how the cap works are saying so much.

At least I admit I'm clueless about how the cap works and keep my mouth shut and let others do the talking when this crap comes up.
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Old 09-04-2023, 09:32 AM   #1007
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Im beginning to think that CJ and co are pulling the King/jettio approach, where they are ignoring the offer by the Chiefs as an EXTENSION. They view it the way Florio wrote it up as. They want a wholey new contract including this season. The Chiefs arent willing to do that, and maybe thats the hangup?
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Old 09-04-2023, 09:33 AM   #1008
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I could be wrong, but I don’t think the team really leaned on Jones for leadership. Seems like Frank or the veteran mercenaries like Dunlap took the lead on the front end.
He seemed to be the guy hyping the team up before the game and keeping them in line on the sidelines. I’d definitely say he was the leader of that defense or at a minimum the DL group.
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Old 09-04-2023, 09:39 AM   #1009
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He seemed to be the guy hyping the team up before the game and keeping them in line on the sidelines. I’d definitely say he was the leader of that defense or at a minimum the DL group.
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Old 09-04-2023, 09:41 AM   #1010
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He seemed to be the guy hyping the team up before the game and keeping them in line on the sidelines. I’d definitely say he was the leader of that defense or at a minimum the DL group.
Well he isn't anymore. Someone will have to step up and take that role.
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Old 09-04-2023, 09:45 AM   #1011
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Apples to apples, Chris Jones wants $11 million less over three years than Aaron Donald

By Mike Florio

Published September 4, 2023 11:07 AM

One of the strangest aspects of NFL contract analysis comes from the new-money fiction for so-called extensions. Agents love it, because it makes deals look better than they really are. Reporters typically go along with it, because the agents who give them information get mad if they don’t.

Here’s how it works. Let’s say a player is under contract for one more year. He signs a five-year contract. The old one is ripped up and replaced with a new one. But the agent characterizes it as a four-year extension, subtracting from the amount the money the player was due to make. This necessarily inflates the “new-money” average to a number much larger than the average value of the full contract from the moment it is signed.

The truth is there are no extensions of NFL player contracts, in the sense that the old deal ends and the deal new starts. The team always rips up the current contract and replaces it with a new one.

In the aftermath of our reporting regarding the gap between the Chiefs and defensive tackle Chris Jones, some are using the new-money fiction to paint Jones as being greedy or unreasonable.

As reported on Saturday, Jones wants $28 million per year over the next three years, a total of $84 million. The argument being made by some is that the $19.5 million Jones was due to make this year must be treated as “old money,” with the difference being “new money.”


So if Jones gets $28 million per year over the next three years, he’ll get $84 million. Under the phoney-baloney new-money analysis, that becomes an average of $32.25 million in “new money” (i.e., $84 million minus $19.5 million, divided by two). And since that number exceeds the average of the Aaron Donald contract ($31.67 million over three years), Jones is being characterized by some as actually wanting more than Donald.

Here’s the problem with that argument. And it’s a huge one.

Yes, Jones has one-year left on his current deal. The existing deal would be ripped up and replaced with a three-year contract. That’s exactly what the Rams did with the Aaron Donald deal. And they didn’t rip up one year, they ripped up THREE.

The old deal, running through 2024, disappeared. Donald got a new deal that pays $95 million over three years. He had an existing three-year contractual commitment, the Rams completely disregarded it, and they gave Donald $95 million over three years.

So Donald had his prior deal scrapped and he got $95 million over three years. Jones wants his prior deal to be scrapped and to make $84 million over three years. That’s as apples to apples as it gets. And anyone who tries to create the impression that Jones wants more than Donald is deliberately bastardizing the already fugazi new-money analysis.

Apples to apples. Donald, $95 million over three. Jones, $84 million over three.

Is the current ability gap between the two players really $11 million over three years? Few would say yes to that.

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Old 09-04-2023, 10:01 AM   #1012
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Old 09-04-2023, 10:02 AM   #1013
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Florio hates the Chiefs... Will write anything and everything in the worst possible light. Jones has little leverage, if he uses the little he has it will continue to erode his reputation with the fans and absolutely be a disaster financially.
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Old 09-04-2023, 10:05 AM   #1014
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Such a clown attempt.

He cites something that has happened ONE time in recent memory. For an absolute mutant player who is far, far above Jones in terms of performance and production.
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Just a reminder that Arizona has two first round draft picks next year. After losing key starters from last year (JJ Watt, Zach Allen, Markus Golden) now have the worst D Line in the NFL.
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Such a clown attempt.

He cites something that has happened ONE time in recent memory. For an absolute mutant player who is far, far above Jones in terms of performance and production.
And that deal has screwed the Rams roster...
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Oh, I didn't know? But, I was there firsthand live for the Titans in 2014 when we lost and the Texans in 2015, Chargers in 2016, Patriots in 2017, Chargers in 2018, Jaguars in 2019, and then Cardinals in 2022 when we won. I know how good Reid is after a bye and with time to plan.

Reid has also never had his best defensive player determine a week before the game that he really just wasn't showing up, and that's enough for the odds of our winning to go down by 10% in my view.
They have been preparing for Jones to not show way longer than a week.
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Just a reminder that Arizona has two first round draft picks next year. After losing key starters from last year (JJ Watt, Zach Allen, Markus Golden) now have the worst D Line in the NFL.
There’s no way they’re trading either of those picks for Chris Jones. Those picks are absolute gold if they’re 1 and 2 which they’re slated to be (of course can change). Caleb Williams (or May) and trade pick 2 to some other team who needs a QB and get multiple firsts.
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Just a reminder that Arizona has two first round draft picks next year. After losing key starters from last year (JJ Watt, Zach Allen, Markus Golden) now have the worst D Line in the NFL.
They’re not trading with us, Balto.
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There’s no way they’re trading either of those picks for Chris Jones. Those picks are absolute gold if they’re 1 and 2 which they’re slated to be (of course can change). Caleb Williams (or May) and trade pick 2 to some other team who needs a QB and get multiple firsts.

I don't think we would get a 1 for Jones from anyone next year. Maybe a first round swap and a 3rd.
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