Brett Veach hopes Chris Jones can play next week; increased talks last 2 days

[RunKC]

For the mega thread hating crew

#Chiefs GM Brett Veach says he's hopeful that DT Chris Jones will play in their season opener vs. the Lions, which is just eight days away.

Veach mentioned that there has been increased communication on an extension over the past two days. pic.twitter.com/MpLGt0mYhz

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) August 30, 2023

[RINGLEADER]

For Chris it is simply:

cash >football

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Oh, we've done reached the "it's a distraction" part of these negotiations. How many times do you think it's going to be brought up on the broadcast Thursday night?

This isn't doing Jones or the team any good at this point.

My marriage has become sexless over this. I’m up all night refreshing Chiefs Planet dot com (hoping to read good news), while my wife begs me to come to bed.

Chris is ruining my life and doesn’t seem to care.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I think these agents are pissing all over Jones' potential career earnings in an attempt to make a name for themselves and attract more clients by standing up to Darth Veach. Jones must be bedazzled by their bullshit, because he could bring all of this to a close any time he wants if he so chose.

I mean, if Orlando Brown hadn't taken his n00b diabetic soulmate agent to heart, he'd be one of the top paid left tackles in the league right now and still blocking for Mahomes. Pretty sure Jones was around for that lesson on how not to negotiate a contract, but, here the **** we are.

[RINGLEADER]

90’s: Run the ball and play defense
00’s: Play good football
10’s: Waiting for Mahomes
20’s: Score moar points

[DenverChief]

So lets talk trade compensation - obviously if the trade team had a player we were interested in there might be a swap of players - but from a pure player for picks standpoint and keeping in mind Jones is 30 (Tyreek was 27):

Trade Proposal #1:
2024 1st
2025 3rd

Trade Proposal #2:
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
2025 4th

Trade Proposal #3:
2024 2nd
2025 2nd
2025 3rd


Thoughts?

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

So lets talk trade compensation - obviously if the trade team had a player we were interested in there might be a swap of players - but from a pure player for picks standpoint and keeping in mind Jones is 30 (Tyreek was 27):

Trade Proposal #1:
2024 1st
2025 3rd

Trade Proposal #2:
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
2025 4th

Trade Proposal #3:
2024 2nd
2025 2nd
2025 3rd


Thoughts?

He'd have to wait until after this season to be traded. No way KC gets the return they'd want for him at this point in the offseason. Cap numbers are set, limiting your suitors BIGTIME.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

So lets talk trade compensation - obviously if the trade team had a player we were interested in there might be a swap of players - but from a pure player for picks standpoint and keeping in mind Jones is 30 (Tyreek was 27):

Trade Proposal #1:
2024 1st
2025 3rd

Trade Proposal #2:
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
2025 4th

Trade Proposal #3:
2024 2nd
2025 2nd
2025 3rd


Thoughts?

while proposal #3 gives us the best chance at multiple good players, I love proposal 1, because we could package and move up for an elite difference maker, which is something that will likely elude us as long as we are drafting in the last four picks.

[O.city]

Yeah there’s no trade until the off-season

He’s got some leverage if the chiefs defense shits itself early I guess

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

while proposal #3 gives us the best chance at multiple good players, I love proposal 1, because we could package and move up for an elite difference maker, which is something that will likely elude us as long as we are drafting in the last four picks.

Definitely this.

[FlaChief58]

I wouldn't be mad with either 1 or 3.

[O.city]

Give me the amount of high rounders over a single higher one

Just keep mining good players and let the rest take care of itself

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

while proposal #3 gives us the best chance at multiple good players, I love proposal 1, because we could package and move up for an elite difference maker, which is something that will likely elude us as long as we are drafting in the last four picks.

And hopefully we do it with the cards (not likely) or Panthers or someone like that.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

So lets talk trade compensation - obviously if the trade team had a player we were interested in there might be a swap of players - but from a pure player for picks standpoint and keeping in mind Jones is 30 (Tyreek was 27):

Trade Proposal #1:
2024 1st
2025 3rd

Trade Proposal #2:
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
2025 4th

Trade Proposal #3:
2024 2nd
2025 2nd
2025 3rd


Thoughts?

Also worth considering. Typically teams trading before the draft value a pick in the draft a year forward about a round later than the upcoming draft because you’re essentially trading an asset about to produce for an asset that won’t be producing for another year (equivalent to the present value of money). So trading for a 2024 1st now should be worth less than a normal 1st before the draft because we have an entire season without any asset that produces.

That said, we’re in a fairly bad situation at the moment that we didn’t anticipate being in.

I’d do cartwheels over a 2024 1 and a 3 to just move on and wipe the slate clean.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard

He'd have to wait until after this season to be traded. No way KC gets the return they'd want for him at this point in the offseason. Cap numbers are set, limiting your suitors BIGTIME.

Unless a team thinks he is the final piece to a Championship run...

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah there’s no trade until the off-season

He’s got some leverage if the chiefs defense shits itself early I guess

i mean lol is he hoping that denver and the bears are going to win a shooting match with mahomes?