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Old 08-30-2023, 03:26 PM  
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Brett Veach hopes Chris Jones can play next week; increased talks last 2 days
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Old 09-07-2023, 09:50 AM   #1891
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Old 09-07-2023, 09:54 AM   #1892
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Chiefs front office could lose goodwill in locker room.
Some players understand they live in a Salary Cap world and teams can't afford to pay everyone what they think they are worth.

I know we all hate the statement "Patriots Way" since we had to deal with Scott Pioli, but that organization did it right when it came to letting go of players chasing money, and bringing in players that were hungry for Super Bowls.
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Old 09-07-2023, 09:56 AM   #1893
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Mahomes took half a billion dollars and had the biggest contract in NFL history when he signed.

Wtf is this narrative
True but the point is mahomes could demand more. Hell he could hold out now and the chiefs would pay him. Then Chris Jones doesn't even get an offer on the table.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:00 AM   #1894
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Some players understand they live in a Salary Cap world and teams can't afford to pay everyone what they think they are worth.

I know we all hate the statement "Patriots Way" since we had to deal with Scott Pioli, but that organization did it right when it came to letting go of players chasing money, and bringing in players that were hungry for Super Bowls.

Chris Jones being a tard and not negotiating in good faith is no reason to go full Patriots when it comes to letting good players walk.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:04 AM   #1895
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Chris Jones being a tard and not negotiating in good faith is no reason to go full Patriots when it comes to letting good players walk.
Agreed, but at this point there might not be an option unless Jones is willing to budge on his demands.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:04 AM   #1896
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I'd really prefer talking about Vita Vea at this point...
Or Gervon Dexter...
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:06 AM   #1897
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Yeah showing up now….it’s weird

Like he’s really not liking this hold out kinda thing
It’s like still showing up for a date that got cancelled on you. ****ing weird. Stay home Chris. We’ll ****ing beat Detroit without you.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:08 AM   #1898
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Or Gervon Dexter...
Well we've been talking about Gervon Dexter.

He's no financial wizard...
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:09 AM   #1899
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It’s like still showing up for a date that got cancelled on you. ****ing weird. Stay home Chris. We’ll ****ing beat Detroit without you.
Hell, it's like showing up to an ex-wife's wedding uninvited.

Dude - they're moving on without you. You gonna stand in the concourse with a boom box and hope they realize they really love you afterall?
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:15 AM   #1900
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The league disagrees with you which is why DEs are paid more than DTs. If you have issues with that, take it up with them.
There's just been a lot more elite edge rushers than there have elite pass rushing DTs. It's the same reason why Travis Kelce is paid so little. There hasn't been many TEs worthy of getting paid a shit ton, so they haven't been able to run up the tab so to speak.
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It’s not just people in this this thread though; based on the salary scale for the different positions, the league clearly puts more value on DEs than they do the DT. You can disagree with their evaluation on the matter all you want, but before you start calling everyone in this discussion tards you might consider that we are only arguing the position that is the current reality.
I agree if you're talking about some DT arguing whether he should 6th or 7th on the DT pay ladder.

But a guy who gets 15.5 sacks from the inside has strong a case to argue that he's as valuable to the team as the top DEs. Position didn't matter when Donald got his contract. Why should it be so important for Jones?

The real arguments imo are more about Jones expected production going forward past age 30, and the fact that he's really only had two all-world seasons and a bunch of very good ones. Whereas Donald won DOPY 3 times and had 9 all-pro (or w/e) seasons in a row. DJ's left nut summed that part of it up really well somewhere way back itt. I think what the Chiefs are offering him is fair, but also way lower than he'd get on the open market right now.
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Mahomes took half a billion dollars and had the biggest contract in NFL history when he signed.

Wtf is this narrative
And it was always a bargain. Jones' contract won't be.
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Tampa wants to trade him?
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There's just been a lot more elite edge rushers than there have elite pass rushing DTs. It's the same reason why Travis Kelce is paid so little. There hasn't been many TEs worthy of getting paid a shit ton, so they haven't been able to run up the tab so to speak.
No disagreements. I just don't think Jones will be the one who changes that, especially due to his age. We will see though and I will eat crow if I am wrong.
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