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View Poll Results: The horse collar call was bullshit
Yes it was 131 71.20%
No way 51 27.72%
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Old 10-01-2023, 09:53 PM   #1
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Come on, dude. That is a huge hold on Smith lol

I’m not saying they didn’t **** us with calls too. Just saying there’s no point in bitching about bad calls when both teams were shafted.
FFS. You don't understand holding. His hands are inside and the DL has to make a move. Not a hold.
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Old 10-01-2023, 10:09 PM   #2
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Reruns in the comments... You can grab and hold the Breast plates/jersey with your hands and arms not extended and its not holding. There is no offensive holding on that play.
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FFS. You don't understand holding. His hands are inside and the DL has to make a move. Not a hold.
Stop it. It’s holding.

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Old 10-02-2023, 09:30 AM   #3
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Stop it. It’s holding.

It's not ****ing holding. They will probably use that in a video to show proper technique. If your arms extended outside your body, you can lock up the guy for as long as you want. This is taught on all levels of football. Smith never had to extend his arms, in fact, it's one of the best legal pass blocks you will see. Only obtuse fans who don't know the rules think this was holding.
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Old 10-02-2023, 09:35 AM   #4
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It's not ****ing holding. They will probably use that in a video to show proper technique. If your arms extended outside your body, you can lock up the guy for as long as you want. This is taught on all levels of football. Smith never had to extend his arms, in fact, it's one of the best legal pass blocks you will see. Only obtuse fans who don't know the rules think this was holding.
It is illegal hands to the face as the DE smacks Smith constantly
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Old 10-02-2023, 10:50 AM   #5
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Stop it. It’s holding.

Not by the letter of the law.

The rusher should have fallen down instead of just standing there and hitting Smith in the head hoping for the best.
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Old 10-02-2023, 10:54 AM   #6
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Not by the letter of the law.

The rusher should have fallen down instead of just standing there and hitting Smith in the head hoping for the best.
I'd say it was a hold in the making.

An inchoate holding. He had exhibited a clear intent and taken overt acts towards committing a hold.

But Jermaine Johnson didn't continue at his outside shoulder and actually force him to do it.
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