Chiefs A Level Headed Review Week 4 2023 - Page 3

DenverChief · 09:49 PM

I'll preface this weeks review with the fact I was unable to watch the 3rd Q.

1. Isaiah Pacheco - his vision just keeps getting better and better. I have been waiting for him to break a long TD run. Seemed like he was always one defender or one juke away from breaking a long TD. We saw that tonight with an amazing lead block by Smith. 100+ yards on the night was really the workhorse of the game. I feel like he will be a 1200 back for us this year.

2. Patrick Mahomes - 2 Interceptions that just didn't make a whole lot of sense, the fumble on the snap 1st down was pure luck. But Patrick being Patrick puts the team on his back when it really counts and runs for 25 yards on 3rd and 23 and again on 3rd and 10 at the end of the game. Screw the score slide down and drain the clock. Love watching Patrick extend plays but I feel like the Jets played the back yard ball well tonight.

3. Defense - Not sure what happened but early on the Defense was dominating and as the game went on they seemed to regress until the 4th quarter. It was almost like maximum effort in the 1st and 4th Quarters and sleep walking in the 2nd and 3rd. Chiefs got lucky on some dropped TD passes and a missed FG. Wharton being Johnny on the spot with the fumble recovery really sealed the NYJ fate. Brian Cook had a nice open field tackle on the Hall run and Mike Edwards almost had a nice pick.

4. Offense- gotta clean up the holding, work on some red zone scoring - none of the WR's are getting open. Not sure what the problem is but our leading receivers were Kelce (60 yards), Pacheco (43 yards), Gray (34 yards), Rice (32 yards) and Toney (22 yards). This is unacceptable. MVS, Watson, and Moore all just disappeared in the passing game. There was no respect for our WR's they were playing man most of the night their secondary was keeping our WR's in check for the most part. I'll admit I had no idea that any offensive penalty in the End Zone was a Safety - I thought it was only holding - even thought the face mask was initiated outside the End Zone the refs decided to give the Safety anyway.

5. Washington again did a phenomenal job on punts. After the first game and last season it's nice to have some solid play at the PR position.

6. I'll need to rewatch the game but surprisingly no illegal formation calls. Not sure if that was our adjustment or the league got the message from Andy.

7. Mecole Hartman didn't get any receptions. Not sure how many snaps he played but he isn't really factoring into the NYJ Offense.

BryanBusby · 10-01-2023, 11:51 PM

Fireman Ed can go fist his own asshole.

jerryaldini · 10-01-2023, 11:52 PM

Saleh got Sauced

**Buehler445** · 10-02-2023, 12:20 AM

**** the Jets

**** Colinsworth

I don't know who that as in the Zach Wilson costume, but he played well.

Mahomes is ****ing good. Even when he's really bad. I love Mahomes.

I think the defense played better than they get credit for. It's not like they were just ****ing blowing coverages out there. Some of those plays were just damn well executed by the Jets. I was really impressed with most of the coverages most of the night. Moreover, there was some really great tackling in the open field. Hall and Wilson got loose in the open field, and our guys got them stopped.

Also I think we really missed Bolton. Tranquil is adequate, but the defense certainly feeds off Boltons energy. I think that's part of the reason why the defense seemed to fade.

I think the real momentum killer was the safety. We obviously got ****ed on the call, nobody ever calls anything in the end zone, but we get a call outside the endzone for a safety because apparently Taylor ****ed ALL THE REFS WIVES....AND DAUGHTERS, apparently. But whatever. We have to overcome.

I will note that I'm glad Reid didn't melt down on his much shittier call like Saleh did over his much less shitty call - after the game was over.

A Salt Weapon · 10-02-2023, 12:24 AM

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out something shady was going on tonight. No way in hell Zack Wilson is capable of playing the way he did tonight when he hasn’t been that locked in before yet. I’ll happily eat crow if he ends up performing that well in future games, but something strikes me as they didn’t turn off the communication mikes or something during the plays.

jerryaldini · 10-02-2023, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Fireman Ed can go fist his own asshole.

This deserves its own thread imo

TEX · 10-02-2023, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Shit, man. That was NOT in this team's toolbox in 2022, 2021 or 2020.

If we have a guy doing that against good defenses, the sky is the limit for this offense.

Not unless the WR's get it together.

Coogs · 10-02-2023, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I think the real momentum killer was the safety. We obviously got ****ed on the call, nobody ever calls anything in the end zone, but we get a call outside the endzone for a safety

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Replay officials are solely responsible for confirming all plays that result in a score or turnover and all try attempts. They also are responsible for stopping the game to initiate a review on any play that starts after the two-minute warning in each half and throughout overtime.

Why was this not overturned by the replay official? A safety is a scoring play, is it not?

R Clark · 10-02-2023, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Fireman Ed can go fist his own asshole.

God damn I was sick of that little basturd hoping he’d fall off when he did his little monkey act

Chris Meck · 10-02-2023, 05:36 AM

I think KC got up 17 early and hit cruise. Once you do that it can be tough to pull out of it.

The bullshit safety, and then the bullshit phantom horse collar got NY believing.

Mahomes got in a funk there in the second and third quarters, the picks were terrible throws- and there were several open receivers that he just flat didn't look at. Whether he'd settled earlier in progression of reads on a target or whatever, I don't know. I can tell you that the wheel route to the back in the left flat was open with no defender within 20 yards on at least three plays where he forced the ball elsewhere.

But those of you who thought the Jets are The Bears were way off base. That's an excellent defense and they were a QB away from seriously contending. Wilson picking last night to drop dimes...hey, tip your cap.

Our young receivers need to play better, no question, but they will. Just as Mahomes doesn't have many games like that. We're 3-1 and finding different ways to win each week.

How about Pacheco!?

Chris Meck · 10-02-2023, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Why was this not overturned by the replay official? A safety is a scoring play, is it not?

Uhh... yeah, that's a good point.

Pointer19 · 10-02-2023, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

Some thoughts:

Taylor (the RT not Travis's girlfriend) is killing the team with his penalties. He's a marked man and needs to act as one.
Why is Toney taking up a roster spot?
I'm really trying to keep faith in Skyy to develop into a #1 but it's getting tough.
Mahomes was a bit off tonight.
The linebacker crew the coaches put together are outstanding. Great job!

Sad to see my boy Cole Christiansen go down today! Graduated a year after me from Army.

warpaint* · 10-02-2023, 06:17 AM

The Jets record is what it is but they did hang Buffalo’s only L. That was a quality win on the road against a good defense - a game they were clearly up for in prime time.

**Bearcat** · 10-02-2023, 06:18 AM

Went to bed at 17-2. Dominating performance, huge statement game, no worries at all.

farmerchief · 10-02-2023, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mschiefs1984

Pacheco Should get the game ball. He really stepped up tonight

Yes, he did, but he needs to take a rest occasionally so he doesnt get worn down, as he runs so dang hard, and punishes his body as well as the defenders. Only problem, is when he takes a break, they bring in MEH, who thinks hes fast enough to outrun defenders to the edges! He looks so sloooooooooowwww.

crayzkirk · 10-02-2023, 06:29 AM

WR group needs improvement, OL struggled a bit. Offense went into a coma and barely revived in time to save the win. Pacheko looked good however even on the long run, he had to avoid a defender that was in the backfield.

So far, Nagy has not impressed me.

10-01-2023, 09:37 PM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	A Level Headed Review Week 4 2023 I'll preface this weeks review with the fact I was unable to watch the 3rd Q. 1. Isaiah Pacheco - his vision just keeps getting better and better. I have been waiting for him to break a long TD run. Seemed like he was always one defender or one juke away from breaking a long TD. We saw that tonight with an amazing lead block by Smith. 100+ yards on the night was really the workhorse of the game. I feel like he will be a 1200 back for us this year. 2. Patrick Mahomes - 2 Interceptions that just didn't make a whole lot of sense, the fumble on the snap 1st down was pure luck. But Patrick being Patrick puts the team on his back when it really counts and runs for 25 yards on 3rd and 23 and again on 3rd and 10 at the end of the game. Screw the score slide down and drain the clock. Love watching Patrick extend plays but I feel like the Jets played the back yard ball well tonight. 3. Defense - Not sure what happened but early on the Defense was dominating and as the game went on they seemed to regress until the 4th quarter. It was almost like maximum effort in the 1st and 4th Quarters and sleep walking in the 2nd and 3rd. Chiefs got lucky on some dropped TD passes and a missed FG. Wharton being Johnny on the spot with the fumble recovery really sealed the NYJ fate. Brian Cook had a nice open field tackle on the Hall run and Mike Edwards almost had a nice pick. 4. Offense- gotta clean up the holding, work on some red zone scoring - none of the WR's are getting open. Not sure what the problem is but our leading receivers were Kelce (60 yards), Pacheco (43 yards), Gray (34 yards), Rice (32 yards) and Toney (22 yards). This is unacceptable. MVS, Watson, and Moore all just disappeared in the passing game. There was no respect for our WR's they were playing man most of the night their secondary was keeping our WR's in check for the most part. I'll admit I had no idea that any offensive penalty in the End Zone was a Safety - I thought it was only holding - even thought the face mask was initiated outside the End Zone the refs decided to give the Safety anyway. 5. Washington again did a phenomenal job on punts. After the first game and last season it's nice to have some solid play at the PR position. 6. I'll need to rewatch the game but surprisingly no illegal formation calls. Not sure if that was our adjustment or the league got the message from Andy. 7. Mecole Hartman didn't get any receptions. Not sure how many snaps he played but he isn't really factoring into the NYJ Offense. Last edited by DenverChief; 10-01-2023 at 09:49 PM..
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Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1625266	** the Jets Colinsworth I don't know who that as in the Zach Wilson costume, but he played well. Mahomes is ing good. Even when he's really bad. I love Mahomes. I think the defense played better than they get credit for. It's not like they were just ing blowing coverages out there. Some of those plays were just damn well executed by the Jets. I was really impressed with most of the coverages most of the night. Moreover, there was some really great tackling in the open field. Hall and Wilson got loose in the open field, and our guys got them stopped. Also I think we really missed Bolton. Tranquil is adequate, but the defense certainly feeds off Boltons energy. I think that's part of the reason why the defense seemed to fade. I think the real momentum killer was the safety. We obviously got ed on the call, nobody ever calls anything in the end zone, but we get a call outside the endzone for a safety because apparently Taylor **ed ALL THE REFS WIVES....AND DAUGHTERS, apparently. But whatever. We have to overcome. I will note that I'm glad Reid didn't melt down on his much shittier call like Saleh did over his much less shitty call - after the game was over.
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A Salt Weapon Starter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Alaska Casino cash: $-860000	I wouldn’t be surprised to find out something shady was going on tonight. No way in hell Zack Wilson is capable of playing the way he did tonight when he hasn’t been that locked in before yet. I’ll happily eat crow if he ends up performing that well in future games, but something strikes me as they didn’t turn off the communication mikes or something during the plays. __________________ If two wrongs don't make a right, try three.
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10-02-2023, 05:36 AM	#39
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1405090	I think KC got up 17 early and hit cruise. Once you do that it can be tough to pull out of it. The bullshit safety, and then the bullshit phantom horse collar got NY believing. Mahomes got in a funk there in the second and third quarters, the picks were terrible throws- and there were several open receivers that he just flat didn't look at. Whether he'd settled earlier in progression of reads on a target or whatever, I don't know. I can tell you that the wheel route to the back in the left flat was open with no defender within 20 yards on at least three plays where he forced the ball elsewhere. But those of you who thought the Jets are The Bears were way off base. That's an excellent defense and they were a QB away from seriously contending. Wilson picking last night to drop dimes...hey, tip your cap. Our young receivers need to play better, no question, but they will. Just as Mahomes doesn't have many games like that. We're 3-1 and finding different ways to win each week. How about Pacheco!?
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10-02-2023, 06:17 AM	#42
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crayzkirk MVP Join Date: Nov 2016 Casino cash: $830000	WR group needs improvement, OL struggled a bit. Offense went into a coma and barely revived in time to save the win. Pacheko looked good however even on the long run, he had to avoid a defender that was in the backfield. So far, Nagy has not impressed me.
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