Chiefs A Level Headed Review Week 4 2023 - Page 6

DenverChief · 09:49 PM

I'll preface this weeks review with the fact I was unable to watch the 3rd Q.

1. Isaiah Pacheco - his vision just keeps getting better and better. I have been waiting for him to break a long TD run. Seemed like he was always one defender or one juke away from breaking a long TD. We saw that tonight with an amazing lead block by Smith. 100+ yards on the night was really the workhorse of the game. I feel like he will be a 1200 back for us this year.

2. Patrick Mahomes - 2 Interceptions that just didn't make a whole lot of sense, the fumble on the snap 1st down was pure luck. But Patrick being Patrick puts the team on his back when it really counts and runs for 25 yards on 3rd and 23 and again on 3rd and 10 at the end of the game. Screw the score slide down and drain the clock. Love watching Patrick extend plays but I feel like the Jets played the back yard ball well tonight.

3. Defense - Not sure what happened but early on the Defense was dominating and as the game went on they seemed to regress until the 4th quarter. It was almost like maximum effort in the 1st and 4th Quarters and sleep walking in the 2nd and 3rd. Chiefs got lucky on some dropped TD passes and a missed FG. Wharton being Johnny on the spot with the fumble recovery really sealed the NYJ fate. Brian Cook had a nice open field tackle on the Hall run and Mike Edwards almost had a nice pick.

4. Offense- gotta clean up the holding, work on some red zone scoring - none of the WR's are getting open. Not sure what the problem is but our leading receivers were Kelce (60 yards), Pacheco (43 yards), Gray (34 yards), Rice (32 yards) and Toney (22 yards). This is unacceptable. MVS, Watson, and Moore all just disappeared in the passing game. There was no respect for our WR's they were playing man most of the night their secondary was keeping our WR's in check for the most part. I'll admit I had no idea that any offensive penalty in the End Zone was a Safety - I thought it was only holding - even thought the face mask was initiated outside the End Zone the refs decided to give the Safety anyway.

5. Washington again did a phenomenal job on punts. After the first game and last season it's nice to have some solid play at the PR position.

6. I'll need to rewatch the game but surprisingly no illegal formation calls. Not sure if that was our adjustment or the league got the message from Andy.

7. Mecole Hartman didn't get any receptions. Not sure how many snaps he played but he isn't really factoring into the NYJ Offense.

StinkBox · 10-02-2023, 03:08 PM

PM2 certainly seemed flustered in the 2nd half. Hopefully only temorary but you guys are certainly hurting at WR right now and the only one I can see that may reliably step up in Rice.

Cincy & Buffalo aren't looking great right now either so that's in the Chiefs favor. Honestly think your biggest worry at this point may be Miami.

**HemiEd** · 10-02-2023, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

KC could have easily had a 10 point victory but decided instead to clock it at 3. On to the next game.

I was pissed because I broke my rule and bet on the Chiefs to cover in Dartgods gambling thread but I bet VEGAS was thrilled!

**HemiEd** · 10-02-2023, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StinkBox

PM2 certainly seemed flustered in the 2nd half. Hopefully only temorary but you guys are certainly hurting at WR right now and the only one I can see that may reliably step up in Rice.

Cincy & Buffalo aren't looking great right now either so that's in the Chiefs favor. Honestly think your biggest worry at this point may be Miami.

Did you not watch Buffalo blow out Miami yesterday? I had the wrong side of that one too.

StinkBox · 10-02-2023, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Did you not watch Buffalo blow out Miami yesterday? I had the wrong side of that one too.

I was doing some fishing yesterday and only caught the night game. Didn't even check the other scores yet but that's suprising. I'm gonna have to watch the highlights on that one.

DenverChief · 10-02-2023, 06:13 PM

Snap Counts (minus the personnel that played 100% of the snaps)

Kelce TE 55 snaps 79%

Watson WR 43 snaps 61% | 7 27%

Pacheco RB 42 snaps 60%

Moore WR 41 snaps 59%

MVS WR 38 snaps 54%

Gray TE 34 snaps 49% | 11 ST Snaps 42%

Rice WR 32 snaps 46%

McKinnon RB 22 snaps 31% | 10 ST snaps 38%

Toney WR 17 snaps 24%

B Bell TE 16 snaps 23% | 5 ST snaps 19%

C Edwards-Helaire RB 6 snaps 9%

J Ross WR 4 snaps 6% | 11 ST Snaps 42%

McDuffie CB 58 Snaps 98% - 1 ST Snap 4%

Karlaftis DE 51 snaps 86% - 4 ST Snaps 15%

Danna DE 50 snaps 85% | 4 ST Snaps 15%

Cook FS 49 snaps 83% | 8 ST Snaps 31%

W Gay LB 45 snaps 76% | 1 ST Snap 4%

C Jones DT 44 snaps 75%

J Williams CB 28 snaps 47% | 20 ST Snaps 77%

D Nnadi DT 27 snaps 46% | 4 ST Snaps 15%

M Edwards FS 26 snaps 44% | 12 ST Snaps 46%

L Chenal LB 24 snaps 41% | 21 ST Snaps 81%

T Wharton DT 16 snaps 27% | 4 ST Snaps 15%

M Dickerson DT 16 snaps 27%

F Anudike-Uzomah DE 13 snaps 22%

M Herring DE 12 snaps 20%

C Conner FS 10 snaps 17% | 20 ST Snaps 77%

J Cochrane LB 3 snaps 5% | 20 ST Snaps 77%

C Jones LB 17 snaps 65%

N Jones CB 17 snaps 65%

M Washington WR 12 ST Snaps 46%

raybec 4 · 10-02-2023, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Snap Counts (minus the personnel that played 100% of the snaps)

Kelce TE 55 snaps 79%

Watson WR 43 snaps 61% | 7 27%

Pacheco RB 42 snaps 60%

Moore WR 41 snaps 59%

MVS WR 38 snaps 54%

Gray TE 34 snaps 49% | 11 ST Snaps 42%

Rice WR 32 snaps 46%

McKinnon RB 22 snaps 31% | 10 ST snaps 38%

Toney WR 17 snaps 24%

B Bell TE 16 snaps 23% | 5 ST snaps 19%

C Edwards-Helaire RB 6 snaps 9%

J Ross WR 4 snaps 6% | 11 ST Snaps 42%

McDuffie CB 58 Snaps 98% - 1 ST Snap 4%

Karlaftis DE 51 snaps 86% - 4 ST Snaps 15%

Danna DE 50 snaps 85% | 4 ST Snaps 15%

Cook FS 49 snaps 83% | 8 ST Snaps 31%

W Gay LB 45 snaps 76% | 1 ST Snap 4%

C Jones DT 44 snaps 75%

J Williams CB 28 snaps 47% | 20 ST Snaps 77%

D Nnadi DT 27 snaps 46% | 4 ST Snaps 15%

M Edwards FS 26 snaps 44% | 12 ST Snaps 46%

L Chenal LB 24 snaps 41% | 21 ST Snaps 81%

T Wharton DT 16 snaps 27% | 4 ST Snaps 15%

M Dickerson DT 16 snaps 27%

F Anudike-Uzomah DE 13 snaps 22%

M Herring DE 12 snaps 20%

C Conner FS 10 snaps 17% | 20 ST Snaps 77%

J Cochrane LB 3 snaps 5% | 20 ST Snaps 77%

C Jones LB 17 snaps 65%

N Jones CB 17 snaps 65%

M Washington WR 12 ST Snaps 46%

59% of the snaps and completely shut out without a catch. That is ****ing ridiculous. Skyy really needs to get it together.

Coochie liquor · 10-02-2023, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

IT IS OVER GUYS

Zach Wilson of the @nyjets is the only opposing QB to have more completions, more passing yards, more TD passes and fewer interceptions than Patrick Mahomes in a Mahomes start, college or pro (out of 127 total starts, including postseason).
— OptaSTATS (@OptaSTATS) October 2, 2023

Wonder if they’d do a straight up trade with us?

**Easy 6** · 10-02-2023, 06:37 PM

My biggest thrill of last night was seeing Pacheco fulfill some promise

We all knew he was fast and powerful, but he hadn't put it all together to really pop a big one until last night... his maturing instincts, speed and vision were all on display

MahomesMagic · 10-02-2023, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by StinkBox

PM2 certainly seemed flustered in the 2nd half. Hopefully only temorary but you guys are certainly hurting at WR right now and the only one I can see that may reliably step up in Rice.

Cincy & Buffalo aren't looking great right now either so that's in the Chiefs favor. Honestly think your biggest worry at this point may be Miami.

Miami has some talent and Fangio but their D has been dog shit so far.

Maybe they turn it around later and if they do, sure.

**HemiEd** · 10-02-2023, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by StinkBox

I was doing some fishing yesterday and only caught the night game. Didn't even check the other scores yet but that's suprising. I'm gonna have to watch the highlights on that one.

It was on here. Started out a good game, then it wasn't. Tua turned to shit and Josh Allen was on fire.

DenverChief · 10-02-2023, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers

My biggest thrill of last night was seeing Pacheco fulfill some promise

We all knew he was fast and powerful, but he hadn't put it all together to really pop a big one until last night... his maturing instincts, speed and vision were all on display

Agreed - glad to see him finally explode.

**HemiEd** · 10-02-2023, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Snap Counts (minus the personnel that played 100% of the snaps)

Kelce TE 55 snaps 79%

Watson WR 43 snaps 61% | 7 27%

Pacheco RB 42 snaps 60%

Moore WR 41 snaps 59%

MVS WR 38 snaps 54%

Gray TE 34 snaps 49% | 11 ST Snaps 42%

Rice WR 32 snaps 46%

McKinnon RB 22 snaps 31% | 10 ST snaps 38%

Toney WR 17 snaps 24%

B Bell TE 16 snaps 23% | 5 ST snaps 19%

C Edwards-Helaire RB 6 snaps 9%

J Ross WR 4 snaps 6% | 11 ST Snaps 42%

McDuffie CB 58 Snaps 98% - 1 ST Snap 4%

Karlaftis DE 51 snaps 86% - 4 ST Snaps 15%

Danna DE 50 snaps 85% | 4 ST Snaps 15%

Cook FS 49 snaps 83% | 8 ST Snaps 31%

W Gay LB 45 snaps 76% | 1 ST Snap 4%

C Jones DT 44 snaps 75%

J Williams CB 28 snaps 47% | 20 ST Snaps 77%

D Nnadi DT 27 snaps 46% | 4 ST Snaps 15%

M Edwards FS 26 snaps 44% | 12 ST Snaps 46%

L Chenal LB 24 snaps 41% | 21 ST Snaps 81%

T Wharton DT 16 snaps 27% | 4 ST Snaps 15%

M Dickerson DT 16 snaps 27%

F Anudike-Uzomah DE 13 snaps 22%

M Herring DE 12 snaps 20%

C Conner FS 10 snaps 17% | 20 ST Snaps 77%

J Cochrane LB 3 snaps 5% | 20 ST Snaps 77%

C Jones LB 17 snaps 65%

N Jones CB 17 snaps 65%

M Washington WR 12 ST Snaps 46%

Ried, Sneed and Tranquill all show 58 snaps or 100% on the link I found.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! · 10-02-2023, 06:56 PM

Can we give a shout out to Bryan Cook? His open field tackle last night saved us the game

tredadda · 10-02-2023, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Miami has some talent and Fangio but their D has been dog shit so far.

Maybe they turn it around later and if they do, sure.

Fortunately for Miami very few teams can slow down that offense. They will have to be the 2018 Chiefs and just outscore everyone. A solid offense will give them all sorts of problems.

DenverChief · 10-02-2023, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Ried, Sneed and Tranquill all show 58 snaps or 100% on the link I found.

Correct - I didn't include the 100% snaps guys - Mahomes and the whole starting OL is missing as well

*EDIT* whoops I see what you are saying - from what I am seeing 59 was 100% of snaps

10-01-2023, 09:37 PM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	A Level Headed Review Week 4 2023 I'll preface this weeks review with the fact I was unable to watch the 3rd Q. 1. Isaiah Pacheco - his vision just keeps getting better and better. I have been waiting for him to break a long TD run. Seemed like he was always one defender or one juke away from breaking a long TD. We saw that tonight with an amazing lead block by Smith. 100+ yards on the night was really the workhorse of the game. I feel like he will be a 1200 back for us this year. 2. Patrick Mahomes - 2 Interceptions that just didn't make a whole lot of sense, the fumble on the snap 1st down was pure luck. But Patrick being Patrick puts the team on his back when it really counts and runs for 25 yards on 3rd and 23 and again on 3rd and 10 at the end of the game. Screw the score slide down and drain the clock. Love watching Patrick extend plays but I feel like the Jets played the back yard ball well tonight. 3. Defense - Not sure what happened but early on the Defense was dominating and as the game went on they seemed to regress until the 4th quarter. It was almost like maximum effort in the 1st and 4th Quarters and sleep walking in the 2nd and 3rd. Chiefs got lucky on some dropped TD passes and a missed FG. Wharton being Johnny on the spot with the fumble recovery really sealed the NYJ fate. Brian Cook had a nice open field tackle on the Hall run and Mike Edwards almost had a nice pick. 4. Offense- gotta clean up the holding, work on some red zone scoring - none of the WR's are getting open. Not sure what the problem is but our leading receivers were Kelce (60 yards), Pacheco (43 yards), Gray (34 yards), Rice (32 yards) and Toney (22 yards). This is unacceptable. MVS, Watson, and Moore all just disappeared in the passing game. There was no respect for our WR's they were playing man most of the night their secondary was keeping our WR's in check for the most part. I'll admit I had no idea that any offensive penalty in the End Zone was a Safety - I thought it was only holding - even thought the face mask was initiated outside the End Zone the refs decided to give the Safety anyway. 5. Washington again did a phenomenal job on punts. After the first game and last season it's nice to have some solid play at the PR position. 6. I'll need to rewatch the game but surprisingly no illegal formation calls. Not sure if that was our adjustment or the league got the message from Andy. 7. Mecole Hartman didn't get any receptions. Not sure how many snaps he played but he isn't really factoring into the NYJ Offense. Last edited by DenverChief; 10-01-2023 at 09:49 PM..
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StinkBox Starter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Deep in the Heart Casino cash: $8070400	PM2 certainly seemed flustered in the 2nd half. Hopefully only temorary but you guys are certainly hurting at WR right now and the only one I can see that may reliably step up in Rice. Cincy & Buffalo aren't looking great right now either so that's in the Chiefs favor. Honestly think your biggest worry at this point may be Miami.
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10-02-2023, 06:13 PM	#80
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	Snap Counts (minus the personnel that played 100% of the snaps) Kelce TE 55 snaps 79% Watson WR 43 snaps 61% \| 7 27% Pacheco RB 42 snaps 60% Moore WR 41 snaps 59% MVS WR 38 snaps 54% Gray TE 34 snaps 49% \| 11 ST Snaps 42% Rice WR 32 snaps 46% McKinnon RB 22 snaps 31% \| 10 ST snaps 38% Toney WR 17 snaps 24% B Bell TE 16 snaps 23% \| 5 ST snaps 19% C Edwards-Helaire RB 6 snaps 9% J Ross WR 4 snaps 6% \| 11 ST Snaps 42% McDuffie CB 58 Snaps 98% - 1 ST Snap 4% Karlaftis DE 51 snaps 86% - 4 ST Snaps 15% Danna DE 50 snaps 85% \| 4 ST Snaps 15% Cook FS 49 snaps 83% \| 8 ST Snaps 31% W Gay LB 45 snaps 76% \| 1 ST Snap 4% C Jones DT 44 snaps 75% J Williams CB 28 snaps 47% \| 20 ST Snaps 77% D Nnadi DT 27 snaps 46% \| 4 ST Snaps 15% M Edwards FS 26 snaps 44% \| 12 ST Snaps 46% L Chenal LB 24 snaps 41% \| 21 ST Snaps 81% T Wharton DT 16 snaps 27% \| 4 ST Snaps 15% M Dickerson DT 16 snaps 27% F Anudike-Uzomah DE 13 snaps 22% M Herring DE 12 snaps 20% C Conner FS 10 snaps 17% \| 20 ST Snaps 77% J Cochrane LB 3 snaps 5% \| 20 ST Snaps 77% C Jones LB 17 snaps 65% N Jones CB 17 snaps 65% M Washington WR 12 ST Snaps 46%
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