Chiefs A Level Headed Review Week 6 2023 - Page 2

DenverChief · 09:24 PM

1. Chamari Connor - Great open field tackle on 2nd and 1 to force 3rd and 2. Should have been a punt but Bolton was knocked down by the TE and Sneed couldn't get wrapped up as Bolton was on his feet.

2. Justin Reid - great play to sack Wilson on 4th and 3 turning the ball over and then getting the pick on the batted ball. Great player and happy he came here over Tyrann "Business Decisions" Mathieu.

3. Pacheco - once again making the Chiefs look like a competent running team. 3 Carries for 15 yards on the first drive. Every week he gets better and better catch and running. 9 carries for 47 yards in the first half (5.2 YPC). I think one aspect of Pacheco's game that could be improved is that he needs to stick his foot in the ground and turn upfield - I feel like he tries to race the defender to the edge when there is no chance of making it - he just needs to make that stick and go upfield and get 2,3,4 yards. Perfect example of that was the 1st down run in the 4th Q where he lost a yard trying to beat the safety to the corner.

4. Nick Bolton - what an interception. Way to find the route and sit underneath.

5. Patrick - INT ball seemed a bit under thrown - that pocket had really collapsed around him when he threw that ball. Not sure if his arm was clipped on that throw or not, I missed the replay. But I think he waited a wee too long on that play for someone to come open. He didn't even seen the blitzer until the last second on the sack before the 2 min warning. Called the blitz (watch cover 0) but didn't get rid of the ball quickly - cost the Chiefs field position - but Butker comes thru with another booming kick to put us back up 2 scores. On second look of that Jawaan missed that assignment and should have taken the inside guy instead of the outside rusher.

6. Malik Herring - really blew up that 3rd down play by beating the OLineman to the gap and blowing up the running lane for Burton allowing Sneed to help clean up the play.

7. Kelce - Continues to be Kelce. He is Patrick's Binky - guy just knows how to be THE open receiver on the field. (7 Rec for 109 Yards at half) but only two more catches in the second half.

8. Amazon - way to miss the 4th down fake FG play to look at some random coach on the Broncos sideline. I swear we got 2 yards on that Tush Push play but they never showed where the ball ended up at.

9. Montrell Washington - first drop on a punt, willing to give him a pass on this one - he was retreating hard (not drifting back) to catch the ball, that has to be pretty hard. Based upon his prior performance I believe this is more an anomaly than a problem. Exciting 4th Q run back makes up for the miscue earlier even though it was wiped out by a (bogus) penalty.

10 Kadarius Toney - Great to see him get into the end zone. Great rub route by MVS to get him open in the flat. Toney can throw the ball (was a pretty spiral with plenty of distance) too just lucky it wasn't picked throwing into double coverage.

11. Butker - Has continued to be money and that 60 yard field goal would have been good from 70. Incredible leg on that guy - never mind the wind was swirling. We are fortunate to have such a reliable kicker. 52 yarder to seal the deal.

12. Moore - A Moore sighting with a 10 yard reception and a first down....and then disappears again until the last drive with a nice first down catch. I wish I could complain more about this but if all he does is catch first downs when we really need them...he is doing better than MVS

13. Rice - great catch and run on the slant route for a 23 yard gain. Great almost first down on 3rd and 17 - never would have guessed we could have gotten to a 4th and 1 on a WR screen to Rice in that situation. 28 yard reception on 3rd and 2 was just absolutely money. MOAR.

14. Red Zone Offense - a little concerning we seem to be having problems with punching it in the End Zone when in goal to go situations. We seem to move the ball up and down the field well but Red Zone offense is a struggle - need to figure that out. Broncos defense came to play though - I'm sure some of that is due to them fighting for their pride.

15. Jaylen Watson - that PI was horrible, he lost the ball in the air and grabbed Sutton's arm. Great 4th Q play to bat the ball away from the receiver on a go route down the sideline. True form for a CB forget about the last play and go out and make a play on the next one.

16. Trick plays - We just don't seem to be able make the trick plays happen this year. Toney should have handed that ball to Pacheco and they would have had a 1st down. Sometimes being cute too much is - well too much. Just stick with the basics for now. Once we figure out the basics we can bring the cute stuff back.

17. Defense - the Defense has been really good tonight with getting their bear paws in the passing lanes and batting down 4 passes. Getting pressure on Wilson and generally holding the Broncos offense to ineffective until the penalty fest of the last drive. Can't really say enough about the Defense and creating turnovers - a few penalties that need to be cleaned up but for the most part played a really good game - do I dare say our Defense is outplaying our Offense at this point?

18. J Watson - didn't see what the injury was but by the way he was shaking his leg while laying on the ground he was in a tremendous amount of pain. (elbow injury).

19. MVS - has just flat out disappeared (except for a critical crack back block penalty) - no Justyn Ross appearance either.

20. Roughing the Passer - They need to change the rule back to a one step rule - if the defender is within one step of the QB before the ball is released there is no roughing. IDK how Edwards could have not landed on top of the QB if that was any factor in the call - reminiscent of the Chris Jones sack and strip of Carr last year - just asinine interpretation of the rule.

Palangi · 10-12-2023, 09:29 PM

Wharton and Dickerson give us next to nothing at the DT spot. Let Coburn and Farrell play over them.

Palangi · 10-12-2023, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

2nd & 5 at DEN 42
(12:24 - 2nd) (Shotgun) P.Mahomes pass incomplete deep right [Z.Allen]. PENALTY on KC-J.Taylor, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at DEN 42 - No Play.

It was a soft call

OKchiefs · 10-12-2023, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34

He's not showing much.. Maybe next year..

It’s still early, don’t necessarily expect much, but don’t like that Herring is getting play over him. With Omenihu coming back it’s goito be even harder for him to get on the field.

Gary Cooper · 10-12-2023, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Random question - is FAU even playing? Almost thought he was inactive tonight.

Yeah, this forum has been silent on him. Last year at this time, there was plenty of talk about Karlaftis and whether that was a good pick. Most people don't even remember who our #1 pick was in 2023.

Wallcrawler · 10-12-2023, 09:36 PM

Toss the stupid ****ing trick plays. Just get rid of that dumb bullshit until your normal offense can ****ing function on a competent level against a dumpsterfire of a team.

You have the best ****ing quarterback on the planet.

If you're gonna go for a 4th down, or need a crucial 3rd down, 15 needs to be running the ****ing show. Not Toubs shitty special teams, not Injurious Proney.

It's such a ludicrous ****ing suggestion to start with. Then the bullshit fails and Mahomes has to look on at the inept dumb****ery that was opted for over him running a real play.

You can do this dumb shit against teams like the Jets and Broncos, so get it out of your system now.

Gary Cooper · 10-12-2023, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Toss the stupid ****ing trick plays. Just get rid of that dumb bullshit until your normal offense can ****ing function on a competent level against a dumpsterfire of a team.

You have the best ****ing quarterback on the planet.

If you're gonna go for a 4th down, or need a crucial 3rd down, 15 needs to be running the ****ing show. Not Toubs shitty special teams, not Injurious Proney.

It's such a ludicrous ****ing suggestion to start with. Then the bullshit fails and Mahomes has to look on at the inept dumb****ery that was opted for over him running a real play.

You can do this dumb shit against teams like the Jets and Broncos, so get I out of your system now.

Yeah, the QB sneak on 4th and 2 with Noah Grey, and Townsend/Niang pushing him was bizarre.

Kadarius Toney throwing the ball into double coverage to MVS also doesn't seem like a good idea.

Molitoth · 10-12-2023, 09:38 PM

Sure hands Watson dropped a hell of a pass tonight which was disappointing.

DRM08 · 10-12-2023, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Toss the stupid ****ing trick plays. Just get rid of that dumb bullshit until your normal offense can ****ing function on a competent level against a dumpsterfire of a team.

You have the best ****ing quarterback on the planet.

If you're gonna go for a 4th down, or need a crucial 3rd down, 15 needs to be running the ****ing show. Not Toubs shitty special teams, not Injurious Proney.

It's such a ludicrous ****ing suggestion to start with. Then the bullshit fails and Mahomes has to look on at the inept dumb****ery that was opted for over him running a real play.

You can do this dumb shit against teams like the Jets and Broncos, so get I out of your system now.

I have no idea what Andy was thinking on 4th and 2. Field goal with Butker and a good defense is not the worst result in the world.

DenverChief · 10-12-2023, 09:40 PM

So if Watsons injury is serious that puts us at Toney, Rice, Moore, MVS, Ross and Washington who has only played ST.

DenverChief · 10-12-2023, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Yeah, the QB sneak on 4th and 2 with Noah Grey, and Townsend/Niang pushing him was bizarre.

Kadarius Toney throwing the ball into double coverage to MVS also doesn't seem like a good idea.

It was a pretty pass - just ill advised

Palangi · 10-12-2023, 09:50 PM

We are so bland on offense. We have no explosive plays anymore.

**alanm** · 10-12-2023, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Sure hands Watson dropped a hell of a pass tonight which was disappointing.

You know what I was thinking? That the ball hit right off the top of his middle finger on his right hand as he was going for it. He may have either jammed it or broken it.

Couch-Potato · 10-12-2023, 10:32 PM

We should put Toney back on PR and KR

**ShortRoundChief** · 10-12-2023, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

We should put Toney back on PR and KR

Or in New York….

DenverChief · 10-12-2023, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm

You know what I was thinking? That the ball hit right off the top of his middle finger on his right hand as he was going for it. He may have either jammed it or broken it.

They reported it was an elbow injury. His leg was shaking like crazy when he was down on the ground. It was incredibly painful.

10-12-2023, 09:13 PM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	A Level Headed Review Week 6 2023 1. Chamari Connor - Great open field tackle on 2nd and 1 to force 3rd and 2. Should have been a punt but Bolton was knocked down by the TE and Sneed couldn't get wrapped up as Bolton was on his feet. 2. Justin Reid - great play to sack Wilson on 4th and 3 turning the ball over and then getting the pick on the batted ball. Great player and happy he came here over Tyrann "Business Decisions" Mathieu. 3. Pacheco - once again making the Chiefs look like a competent running team. 3 Carries for 15 yards on the first drive. Every week he gets better and better catch and running. 9 carries for 47 yards in the first half (5.2 YPC). I think one aspect of Pacheco's game that could be improved is that he needs to stick his foot in the ground and turn upfield - I feel like he tries to race the defender to the edge when there is no chance of making it - he just needs to make that stick and go upfield and get 2,3,4 yards. Perfect example of that was the 1st down run in the 4th Q where he lost a yard trying to beat the safety to the corner. 4. Nick Bolton - what an interception. Way to find the route and sit underneath. 5. Patrick - INT ball seemed a bit under thrown - that pocket had really collapsed around him when he threw that ball. Not sure if his arm was clipped on that throw or not, I missed the replay. But I think he waited a wee too long on that play for someone to come open. He didn't even seen the blitzer until the last second on the sack before the 2 min warning. Called the blitz (watch cover 0) but didn't get rid of the ball quickly - cost the Chiefs field position - but Butker comes thru with another booming kick to put us back up 2 scores. On second look of that Jawaan missed that assignment and should have taken the inside guy instead of the outside rusher. 6. Malik Herring - really blew up that 3rd down play by beating the OLineman to the gap and blowing up the running lane for Burton allowing Sneed to help clean up the play. 7. Kelce - Continues to be Kelce. He is Patrick's Binky - guy just knows how to be THE open receiver on the field. (7 Rec for 109 Yards at half) but only two more catches in the second half. 8. Amazon - way to miss the 4th down fake FG play to look at some random coach on the Broncos sideline. I swear we got 2 yards on that Tush Push play but they never showed where the ball ended up at. 9. Montrell Washington - first drop on a punt, willing to give him a pass on this one - he was retreating hard (not drifting back) to catch the ball, that has to be pretty hard. Based upon his prior performance I believe this is more an anomaly than a problem. Exciting 4th Q run back makes up for the miscue earlier even though it was wiped out by a (bogus) penalty. 10 Kadarius Toney - Great to see him get into the end zone. Great rub route by MVS to get him open in the flat. Toney can throw the ball (was a pretty spiral with plenty of distance) too just lucky it wasn't picked throwing into double coverage. 11. Butker - Has continued to be money and that 60 yard field goal would have been good from 70. Incredible leg on that guy - never mind the wind was swirling. We are fortunate to have such a reliable kicker. 52 yarder to seal the deal. 12. Moore - A Moore sighting with a 10 yard reception and a first down....and then disappears again until the last drive with a nice first down catch. I wish I could complain more about this but if all he does is catch first downs when we really need them...he is doing better than MVS 13. Rice - great catch and run on the slant route for a 23 yard gain. Great almost first down on 3rd and 17 - never would have guessed we could have gotten to a 4th and 1 on a WR screen to Rice in that situation. 28 yard reception on 3rd and 2 was just absolutely money. MOAR. 14. Red Zone Offense - a little concerning we seem to be having problems with punching it in the End Zone when in goal to go situations. We seem to move the ball up and down the field well but Red Zone offense is a struggle - need to figure that out. Broncos defense came to play though - I'm sure some of that is due to them fighting for their pride. 15. Jaylen Watson - that PI was horrible, he lost the ball in the air and grabbed Sutton's arm. Great 4th Q play to bat the ball away from the receiver on a go route down the sideline. True form for a CB forget about the last play and go out and make a play on the next one. 16. Trick plays - We just don't seem to be able make the trick plays happen this year. Toney should have handed that ball to Pacheco and they would have had a 1st down. Sometimes being cute too much is - well too much. Just stick with the basics for now. Once we figure out the basics we can bring the cute stuff back. 17. Defense - the Defense has been really good tonight with getting their bear paws in the passing lanes and batting down 4 passes. Getting pressure on Wilson and generally holding the Broncos offense to ineffective until the penalty fest of the last drive. Can't really say enough about the Defense and creating turnovers - a few penalties that need to be cleaned up but for the most part played a really good game - do I dare say our Defense is outplaying our Offense at this point? 18. J Watson - didn't see what the injury was but by the way he was shaking his leg while laying on the ground he was in a tremendous amount of pain. (elbow injury). 19. MVS - has just flat out disappeared (except for a critical crack back block penalty) - no Justyn Ross appearance either. 20. Roughing the Passer - They need to change the rule back to a one step rule - if the defender is within one step of the QB before the ball is released there is no roughing. IDK how Edwards could have not landed on top of the QB if that was any factor in the call - reminiscent of the Chris Jones sack and strip of Carr last year - just asinine interpretation of the rule. Last edited by DenverChief; 10-12-2023 at 09:24 PM..
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DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	So if Watsons injury is serious that puts us at Toney, Rice, Moore, MVS, Ross and Washington who has only played ST.
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Palangi Starter Join Date: Oct 2021 Casino cash: $2700400	We are so bland on offense. We have no explosive plays anymore.
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