Caleb Williams asking for partial ownership from team that drafts him

[staylor26]

I will say this about Caleb, just like Trevor Lawrence, many people act like it's blasphemy to criticize him as a prospect.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I will say this about Caleb, just like Trevor Lawrence, many people act like it's blasphemy to criticize him as a prospect.

Agreed. This is what happens when our culture and society become more spiritually idolatrous and sacrifice their souls to their gods as time goes on.

But this whole Caleb is the messiah crap and can do no wrong, please, you are watching "pride comes before a fall" right before your very eyes. And if I am a GM what I pay attention to more than anything are these qualities in this order 'WHEN' looking at the QB position:

1. Character - show me you are a leader of men and love them, show me you know how to handle adversity on and off the field. Show me that the NFL game is "not all about YOU and your career" but about "your team and winning as a team" thus you put your teammates FIRST. Bottom line - Show me HUMILITY!

2. Student of the Game - Show me you love the game so much you "want to be the smartest guy on the field" in any football offensive situation and 95% of the time(nobody's perfect) make the "right decisions".

3. Physically play the game - Show me you can make all the throws 'accurately', show me you have quick feet in the pocket to avoid the rush in the pocket without being overly athletic. Show me you know how to exhaust all WR options before taking off 'if possible'.

Don't know if you guys saw this last night after the game, but you saw the camera on Caleb sulking, feeling sorry for himself just sitting there on the bench. NOT GOOD!! Here a walk on back up QB who was working at Lowe's just a few months earlier who worked his ass off just to be the backup just beat the Goliath of college QBs in Williams!! Do you think IF hypothetically speaking if Barnes beat Mahomes that Pat would just sit there and just selfishly sulk ???????

NO WAY !!! Pat would've have been the first on the field to shake Barnes's hand and congratulate him as much as Pat hates losing. Pat is TOTAL CLASS and has respect for successful oppositional warrior play because this is just another sign of Pat's "LOVE FOR THE GAME".

Don't care if you can throw the ball out of the stadium with accuracy or scramble/run better than most RBs; if you don't love the game more than yourself(humility and student of the game) then it's a pass for me.

The sports media, public and GMs are always chasing the new shiny object making it their god until the shine wears off and for some the shine wears off quicker than others.

Pat passes not only all of the top 3 qualities in a QB with flying colors and then some for me, HE LIVES THEM !!! Caleb stated that he can do everything Pat can.(my paraphrase).

REALLY ????

Until Caleb embraces the 1st and 2nd qualities he will have a very RUDE AWAKENING in the NFL for sure. College QBing vs NFL QBing is the difference between MEN and boys. Sure, it is a wait and see situation but when you have CAM II written all over your ego, it is a EASY PASS for me.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Agreed. This is what happens when our culture and society become more spiritually idolatrous and sacrifice their souls to their gods as time goes on.

But this whole Caleb is the messiah crap and can do no wrong, please, you are watching "pride comes before a fall" right before your very eyes. And if I am a GM what I pay attention to more than anything are these qualities in this order 'WHEN' looking at the QB position:

1. Character - show me you are a leader of men and love them, show me you know how to handle adversity on and off the field. Show me that the NFL game is "not all about YOU and your career" but about "your team and winning as a team" thus you put your teammates FIRST. Bottom line - Show me HUMILITY!

2. Student of the Game - Show me you love the game so much you "want to be the smartest guy on the field" in any football offensive situation and 95% of the time(nobody's perfect) make the "right decisions".

3. Physically play the game - Show me you can make all the throws 'accurately', show me you have quick feet in the pocket to avoid the rush in the pocket without being overly athletic. Show me you know how to exhaust all WR options before taking off 'if possible'.

Don't know if you guys saw this last night after the game, but you saw the camera on Caleb sulking, feeling sorry for himself just sitting there on the bench. NOT GOOD!! Here a walk on back up QB who was working at Lowe's just a few months earlier who worked his ass off just to be the backup just beat the Goliath of college QBs in Williams!! Do you think IF hypothetically speaking if Barnes beat Mahomes that Pat would just sit there and just selfishly sulk ???????

NO WAY !!! Pat would've have been the first on the field to shake Barnes's hand and congratulate him as much as Pat hates losing. Pat is TOTAL CLASS and has respect for successful oppositional warrior play because this is just another sign of Pat's "LOVE FOR THE GAME".

Don't care if you can throw the ball out of the stadium with accuracy or scramble/run better than most RBs; if you don't love the game more than yourself(humility and student of the game) then it's a pass for me.

The public and GMs are always chasing the new shiny object making it their god until the shine wears off and for some the shine wears off quicker than others.

Pat passes not only all of the top 3 qualities in a QB with flying colors and then some for me, HE LIVES THEM !!! Caleb stated that he can do everything Pat can.(my paraphrase).

REALLY ????

Until Caleb embraces the 1st and 2nd qualities he will have a very RUDE AWAKENING in the NFL for sure. College QBing vs NFL QBing is the difference between MEN and boys. Sure, it is a wait and see situation but when you have CAM II written all over your ego, it is a EASY PASS for me.

Question for you:

Alex Smith had those three qualities in spades. Maybe #3 less so than others, but he absolutely possessed average to above average arm strength, and definitely made up for it with his size and scrambling ability.

Is there something else out there that we can point to and say, "Well, that's why Mahomes is Mahomes and Alex is Alex"

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Question for you:

Alex Smith had those three qualities in spades. Maybe #3 less so than others, but he absolutely possessed average to above average arm strength, and definitely made up for it with his size and scrambling ability.

Is there something else out there that we can point to and say, "Well, that's why Mahomes is Mahomes and Alex is Alex"

Uncanny quick instinct after the snap to accurately read the situation and use his extreme talented throwing and scrambling abilities with the confidence and courage to always play big when needed. Pat knows the greatness that lives within him and is not afraid to be great. Alex rarely played big if ever always going the conservative route and could have played bigger IMO but then maybe he knew his limits to your point.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I will say this about Caleb, just like Trevor Lawrence, many people act like it's blasphemy to criticize him as a prospect.

I think owners, and fans, need to stop killing GMs who get the franchise QB thing wrong.

I say this because the fear of either tying yourself to a mega bust, or just getting an OK guy when the guy you passed on became elite, keeps GMs from taking chances, and really hurts your franchise more than getting it wrong.

Maybe it's the best GM for your team, but he takes McCoy, and two picks later Mahomes gets picked and becomes a legend. A failure like that would probably lead to a new GM and new coach.

That sets a franchise back more than just missing on a pick. Shoot, GMs should get a pass when they miss on a franchise guy, at least the first couple of times.

I would rather swing and whiff a couple of years in a row, and then find Mahomes, than try once, miss, and then go 30+ years before trying again.

Having said that, Williams may be a success in the NFL, but I wouldn't draft him. Well, if I earned the number one pick because my team lost 16 games, then I would NOT draft him. But, if I should be drafting in the high twenties but happen to have the number one pick from previous trades, I might take a chance.

[Iowanian]

Caleb, How many of your teammates went to your birthday party?

[RunKC]

Just realized he is not gonna be in the CFB playoffs as a starter. It's not like he was Mahomes and played in Siberia with barely any talent.

Jordan Addison, Tui Tuipulotu, Mekhi Blackmon and Andrew Vorhees were all top 100 talents in the last draft and he's got quite a few this year as well.

It's impossible to be Patrick Mahomes. He just needs to focus on being a good QB for now

[Titty Meat]

There isn't a QB outside of Mahomes that CP thinks is good tho

[RunKC]

Mahomes would never do this shit lmao

Death, Taxes, and Caleb Williams crying after he loses pic.twitter.com/Mg6iZf6Xwq

— Footballism (@FootbaIIism) November 5, 2023

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Mahomes would never do this shit lmao

Death, Taxes, and Caleb Williams crying after he loses pic.twitter.com/Mg6iZf6Xwq

— Footballism (@FootbaIIism) November 5, 2023

BINGO !!

I saw this as well. If I am an NFL GM and see this "immature manure" NO WAY !!!! I don't think he realizes just how bad this looks for 'soooooo many different reasons' but most of all displays "it still is all about me".

[Buehler445]

They ****ing lost that game? My god man. USC has unreal talent.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

They ****ing lost that game? My god man. USC has unreal talent.

Lincoln Riley doesn't care about D at all. Like less than Leach did.

[RealSNR]

Lots of all time great QBs cry after losses!

Like this guy!

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Lots of all time great QBs cry after losses!

Like this guy!

He didn't go crying to mama though!!

[dlphg9]

Also, this is completely illegal. Can't play in the NFL and have any type ownership of a team. This was probably a bullshit report.