Hardman placed on IR; Toney is out vs Raiders

[-King-]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I'll give you 10:1 odds that he's on an NFL team next season (and much more likely than not the Chiefs).

He's been durable this year. He's shown clear flashes of being a real playmaker. The Chiefs haven't exactly had any sort of consistency in terms of who gets snaps, opportunities, and targets in a predictable way this season, and Toney is right in the middle of that.

But look, 10:1 odds pretty good for you since it seems like you actually think that's the most likely outcome for the guy. I just strongly disagree with you and these are the odds I'm willing to offer.

Dude sometimes people just want to have conversations . Not about being right or wrong or betting about it. I don't care if some team is stupid enough to still hope they can change him. As long as it's not the chiefs, I don't care because he doesn't belong on an NFL roster.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by -King-

Dude sometimes people just want to have conversations . Not about being right or wrong or betting about it. I don't care if some team is stupid enough to still hope they can change him. As long as it's not the chiefs, I don't care because he doesn't belong on an NFL roster.

That's it! I've been looking for the words to describe what it's like to engage with Twisted if he doesn't agree with you, and THIS sums it up perfectly. My first engagement with him resulted in him losing a ban- bet, which he proposed, and him leaving for months. . Deal was, when he lost, I even said that he didn't have to go, but he still did....Dude brings a lot to the board, but you're so right in that sometimes you just want to talk and nobody has to win...
And I completely agree with your Toney take.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by -King-

Dude sometimes people just want to have conversations . Not about being right or wrong or betting about it. I don't care if some team is stupid enough to still hope they can change him. As long as it's not the chiefs, I don't care because he doesn't belong on an NFL roster.

Twisted must be like 12 years old because his “Let’s make a bet” schtick is ridiculously lame.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Twisted must be like 12 years old because his “Let’s make a bet” schtick is ridiculously lame.

It’s just that so many of you adults love to talk with such confidence and conviction on low probability outcomes, yet none of you are willing to back this stuff up with anything tangible.

It’s like picking the right numbers for the lottery and being so proud of yourself despite the fact that you’re not even willing to buy a ticket.

You do you.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

It’s just that so many of you adults love to talk with such confidence and conviction on low probability outcomes, yet none of you are willing to back this stuff up with anything tangible.

It’s like picking the right numbers for the lottery and being so proud of yourself despite the fact that you’re not even willing to buy a ticket.

You do you.

So in this analogy....toney playing for a team next year is like winning the lottery? And that's what I'm buying a ticket for? What makes football discussions the "lottery" to you?

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

So in this analogy....toney playing for a team next year is like winning the lottery? And that's what I'm buying a ticket for? What makes football discussions the "lottery" to you?

I’ll slow this down.

We’re talking about a low probability outcome - say, 5% - that you are putting out there as if the odds are 75%. And then when I disagree with you and imply that his health hasn’t exactly been a complete disaster this year which would be the main reason his career ends, you respond mockingly as if I’m the one who doesn’t understand how Toney might be viewed.

So, we have a real difference of opinion. You implied something was likely and I think it’s very, very unlikely, and I’m willing to give you very favorable odds commensurate with my view that you would clearly be incentivized to take if you really thought you were right.

If Toney isn’t in the league next year and we bet $1, you get $10 and only risked $1 in doing so. Seems like a good bet if you feel like your odds are right and I’m the clueless one here.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I’ll slow this down.

We’re talking about a low probability outcome - say, 5% - that you are putting out there as if the odds are 75%. And then when I disagree with you and imply that his health hasn’t exactly been a complete disaster this year which would be the main reason his career ends, you respond mockingly as if I’m the one who doesn’t understand how Toney might be viewed.

So, we have a real difference of opinion. You implied something was likely and I think it’s very, very unlikely, and I’m willing to give you very favorable odds commensurate with my view that you would clearly be incentivized to take if you really thought you were right.

If Toney isn’t in the league next year and we bet $1, you get $10 and only risked $1 in doing so. Seems like a good bet if you feel like your odds are right and I’m the clueless one here.

What a weird way to live man. If your wife says she'll likely be home in an hour, do you press her about making a bet on if she'll actually be home in an hour or not?


You're way too fixated on being right or wrong. It's just a forum man, no one cares.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

What a weird way to live man. If your wife says she'll likely be home in an hour, do you press her about making a bet on if she'll actually be home in an hour or not?


You're way too fixated on being right or wrong. It's just a forum man, no one cares.

No, A weird way to live is the guys on here just absolutely trashing players on their favorite team. Can you be disappointed and criticize their play?, sure... but the outright immature hate from some of you is flat out strange...

[TEX]

Originally Posted by -King-

What a weird way to live man. If your wife says she'll likely be home in an hour, do you press her about making a bet on if she'll actually be home in an hour or not?


You're way too fixated on being right or wrong. It's just a forum man, no one cares.

He cant help himself. He has issues...

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Twisted must be like 12 years old because his “Let’s make a bet” schtick is ridiculously lame.

Thats one of the things I like about him. He did lose the bet vs me, too. Bless his heart. I respect paying and making right on your bets one way or another.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Thats one of the things I like about him. He did lose the bet vs me, too. Bless his heart. I respect paying and making right on your bets one way or another.

Yep. Even when he was told it was not necessary.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

Dude sometimes people just want to have conversations . Not about being right or wrong or betting about it. I don't care if some team is stupid enough to still hope they can change him. As long as it's not the chiefs, I don't care because he doesn't belong on an NFL roster.

No, but you say stuff as if it’s likely and that he shouldn’t be on a team. Like, why? He clearly hasn’t been great or even good but the guy has absolutely flashed enough such that some team is going to take a chance on the guy.

Compare him to Skyy Moore who hasn’t even flashed at any point in his career. If you told me that guy didn’t make it past his rookie deal, I wouldn’t be shocked.

But Toney? You think he’s done next year? He’s been active every game this season so it’s not like his body is falling apart before our very eyes and no one would dare take a risk on him.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

No, but you say stuff as if it’s likely and that he shouldn’t be on a team. Like, why? He clearly hasn’t been great or even good but the guy has absolutely flashed enough such that some team is going to take a chance on the guy.

Compare him to Skyy Moore who hasn’t even flashed at any point in his career. If you told me that guy didn’t make it past his rookie deal, I wouldn’t be shocked.

But Toney? You think he’s done next year? He’s been active every game this season so it’s not like his body is falling apart before our very eyes and no one would dare take a risk on him.

Being active for 10 games straight means literally nothing when you're playing 10 or less snaps per game.

And then still get injured.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

Being active for 10 games straight means literally nothing when you're playing 10 or less snaps per game.

And then still get injured.

No, it means that the guy hasn’t been the complete brokedick that might mean you’re right and that he’ll be out of the league next year. Isn’t that the only thing I’ve argued with you?