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Old 03-29-2023, 08:39 AM  
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Haven't we known that pretty much back to the All Star Break?

Or is this more of a "We are GOING to deal him, if only for a relief arm in High A and some salary relief..." sort of thing? Because I guess that would be a little different.

I do think many people fail to recognize the impact he has defensively. The outfield defense is CLEARLY better when he's out there. By a ton. He's a differencemaker defensively even when he isn't hitting. Even if he's replacement level offensively, he's a 2 WAR player, IMO, because of the defense. He's probably the best defensive LFer in baseball.

I think they're making a mistake just casting that out. But I think they make a LOT of mistakes so that's not really surprising.
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At this point what can they get for him? Sone A ball lottery ticket 3rd basemen?
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Haven't we known that pretty much back to the All Star Break?

Or is this more of a "We are GOING to deal him, if only for a relief arm in High A and some salary relief..." sort of thing? Because I guess that would be a little different.

I do think many people fail to recognize the impact he has defensively. The outfield defense is CLEARLY better when he's out there. By a ton. He's a differencemaker defensively even when he isn't hitting. Even if he's replacement level offensively, he's a 2 WAR player, IMO, because of the defense. He's probably the best defensive LFer in baseball.

I think they're making a mistake just casting that out. But I think they make a LOT of mistakes so that's not really surprising.
I've been pimping for the Royals to trade for him. He can play outfield at Kauffman and give a solid right hand bat even if he is made out of glass vagina
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I've been pimping for the Royals to trade for him. He can play outfield at Kauffman and give a solid right hand bat even if he is made out of glass vagina
80 grade raw power will play even at Kaufman.

Dude doesn't hit wall-scrapers. When he hits 'em, they stay hit. And his defense in that big OF of yours would be nice.

That said, he's a pump and dump candidate for someone. He's going to have depressed counting stats in KC even if he stays healthy. Is that worthwhile for y'all?

I figure any pending FA you trade for is because you think you can rehab his value and flip him for a younger asset as part of the rebuild. How would O'Neill really fit that model?
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80 grade raw power will play even at Kaufman.

Dude doesn't hit wall-scrapers. When he hits 'em, they stay hit. And his defense in that big OF of yours would be nice.

That said, he's a pump and dump candidate for someone. He's going to have depressed counting stats in KC even if he stays healthy. Is that worthwhile for y'all?

I figure any pending FA you trade for is because you think you can rehab his value and flip him for a younger asset as part of the rebuild. How would O'Neill really fit that model?
His defense, potential bat, along with age and salary I think its worth it for the Royals.
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I never can tell with y'all - do you guys hate Scott Barlow at the moment? Or are you friends again? Or did you already trade him?

Mozeliak is looking for a reliever and we already have guys that can put up a 6 ERA. Who you got?
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I never can tell with y'all - do you guys hate Scott Barlow at the moment? Or are you friends again? Or did you already trade him?

Mozeliak is looking for a reliever and we already have guys that can put up a 6 ERA. Who you got?
Barlow is gone, traded him to San Diego. The Fathers just traded him to Cleveland.
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I'm sure it's not a no-show gig designed to stoke fan goodwill.

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