Offsides reality

[wachashi]

Everyone admits it's standard practice to give a warning to a player/coach before calling offensive offenses (one of the reasons it's so rare).

The refs claim Toney was "egregiously" offsides, and that's why no warning was given.

The fact is Toney gained zero advantage with this alignment, which is the entire point of a penalty in the first place.

The first offensive offsides penalty in Reid's long career happens to come with under two minutes to play in the fourth quarter of what amounts to a playoff game. And it happens in the same season in which the Chiefs have been repeatedly held to a different standard than the rest of the league when it comes to alignment/offsides penalties.

A lot of our fans "hate to blame the refs" but let's be real here. Refs can absolutely determine outcomes against two evenly-matched teams.

I'm with Andy Reid on this one. I think that guy has seen a thing or two, and he RARELY says a word about the refs.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by wachashi

Everyone admits it's standard practice to give a warning to a player/coach before calling offensive offenses (one of the reasons it's so rare).

The refs claim Toney was "egregiously" offsides, and that's why no warning was given.

The fact is Toney gained zero advantage with this alignment, which is the entire point of a penalty in the first place.

The first offensive offsides penalty in Reid's long career happens to come with under two minutes to play in the fourth quarter of what amounts to a playoff game. And it happens in the same season in which the Chiefs have been repeatedly held to a different standard than the rest of the league when it comes to alignment/offsides penalties.

A lot of our fans "hate to blame the refs" but let's be real here. Refs can absolutely determine outcomes against two evenly-matched teams.

I'm with Andy Reid on this one. I think that guy has seen a thing or two, and he RARELY says a word about the refs.

Point is that Toney never should have put them in a position to allow the ref to determine the outcome.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by wachashi

Everyone admits it's standard practice to give a warning to a player/coach before calling offensive offenses (one of the reasons it's so rare).

The refs claim Toney was "egregiously" offsides, and that's why no warning was given.

The fact is Toney gained zero advantage with this alignment, which is the entire point of a penalty in the first place.

The first offensive offsides penalty in Reid's long career happens to come with under two minutes to play in the fourth quarter of what amounts to a playoff game. And it happens in the same season in which the Chiefs have been repeatedly held to a different standard than the rest of the league when it comes to alignment/offsides penalties.

A lot of our fans "hate to blame the refs" but let's be real here. Refs can absolutely determine outcomes against two evenly-matched teams.

I'm with Andy Reid on this one. I think that guy has seen a thing or two, and he RARELY says a word about the refs.

He was blatantly offsides and the NFL has made offensive players lining up offsides a point of emphasis this season... this was like the 11th or 12th offensive offsides call this season.

Instead of crying about the refs, Andy should hold his WR's more accountable for their embarrassing play.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by wachashi

Everyone admits it's standard practice to give a warning to a player/coach before calling offensive offenses (one of the reasons it's so rare).

The refs claim Toney was "egregiously" offsides, and that's why no warning was given.

The fact is Toney gained zero advantage with this alignment, which is the entire point of a penalty in the first place.

The first offensive offsides penalty in Reid's long career happens to come with under two minutes to play in the fourth quarter of what amounts to a playoff game. And it happens in the same season in which the Chiefs have been repeatedly held to a different standard than the rest of the league when it comes to alignment/offsides penalties.

A lot of our fans "hate to blame the refs" but let's be real here. Refs can absolutely determine outcomes against two evenly-matched teams.

I'm with Andy Reid on this one. I think that guy has seen a thing or two, and he RARELY says a word about the refs.

If there were zero advantage to lining up on the opposite side of the ball, it wouldn't be ****ing illegal to do so.

Good grief, guys.

[wachashi]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

If there were zero advantage to lining up on the opposite side of the ball, it wouldn't be ****ing illegal to do so.

Good grief, guys.

Yeah "players can line however they want" is not the argument that I'm making, so I'm not sure why you quoted me.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by wachashi

Yeah "players can line however they want" is not the argument that I'm making, so I'm not sure why you quoted me.

Well then you're doing a piss-poor job of making whatever your argument is, because you flat out say that Toney lining up a full yard ahead of where he should be isn't an advantage.

Which is nonsense.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

If there were zero advantage to lining up on the opposite side of the ball, it wouldn't be ****ing illegal to do so.

Good grief, guys.

100%.

"Football is a game of inches". - Vince Lombardi Jr.

Him being 6 inches over the line matters.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx

100%.

"Football is a game of inches". - Vince Lombardi Jr.

Him being 6 inches over the line matters.

6 inches?

My brother in Christ, he was nearly a full yard over. He should be lined up where Rice is.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by wachashi

Everyone admits it's standard practice to give a warning to a player/coach before calling offensive offenses (one of the reasons it's so rare).

The refs claim Toney was "egregiously" offsides, and that's why no warning was given.

The fact is Toney gained zero advantage with this alignment, which is the entire point of a penalty in the first place.

The first offensive offsides penalty in Reid's long career happens to come with under two minutes to play in the fourth quarter of what amounts to a playoff game. And it happens in the same season in which the Chiefs have been repeatedly held to a different standard than the rest of the league when it comes to alignment/offsides penalties.

A lot of our fans "hate to blame the refs" but let's be real here. Refs can absolutely determine outcomes against two evenly-matched teams.

I'm with Andy Reid on this one. I think that guy has seen a thing or two, and he RARELY says a word about the refs.

Here’s the warning… ITS IN THE ****ING RULE BOOK.. and you can’t be that far offsides and it won’t get called.. I look for Andy and Patrick to walk back their comments in their pressers…