NFL is reviewing Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Also some facts:
Brady didn't shake Foles' hand after the SB loss.

After 13 Seconds, Mahomes made it a priority to find Allen:



They clearly have a different relationship and aren't just some random QBs to each other. It was like letting off steam with a friend.

And again, if he limits it to one outburst, sure - I'm with you 100% and we're not even talking about it, nor is the national media.

But MAN it's a bad look when you lose your shit on the sideline, make that comment to Josh - whether it was letting off steam with a friend or not - then double and triple down in the presser when you're 100% in the wrong.

He just...wouldn't...stop. With that said, I'd bet it all that we'll never see it happen again.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

And again, if he limits it to one outburst, sure - I'm with you 100% and we're not even talking about it, nor is the national media.

But MAN it's a bad look when you lose your shit on the sideline, make that comment to Josh - whether it was letting off steam with a friend or not - then double and triple down in the presser when you're 100% in the wrong.

He just...wouldn't...stop. With that said, I'd bet it all that we'll never see it happen again.

I definitely think it was a strange hill to die on, but he also mentioned staying quiet last week, so my complete guess is maybe we don't see that kind of thing if it wasn't for all the other bullshit from last week and all the challenges yesterday.

I personally think players and coaches and even owners need to start calling out at least the worst of it though... not sure how Mahomes or anyone keeps their cool after the piggy back ride last weekend.

Toney was obvious lined up in/across the neutral zone, but there are several other plays they ****ed up and had to reverse, spending 5 or 10 minutes on a few of them.... I agree they picked the wrong one to focus on, but as a whole all this shit is ruining the game.

I find myself not even being all that excited for plays because I'm conditioned now to wait for the flag and bullshit... I saw the one on Toney when they threw it and assumed it was defensive offsides, but still wasn't jumping up and down at the great play, because how will the NFL **** it up (of course, Toney ****ed it up).

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

And again, if he limits it to one outburst, sure - I'm with you 100% and we're not even talking about it, nor is the national media.

But MAN it's a bad look when you lose your shit on the sideline, make that comment to Josh - whether it was letting off steam with a friend or not - then double and triple down in the presser when you're 100% in the wrong.

He just...wouldn't...stop. With that said, I'd bet it all that we'll never see it happen again.

Was it the right call?

The refs right foot is what you usually go off in a game and Toney was my offsides based on the right foot of the red, only by the imaginary tv line that’s not official.

That’s after the MVS piggy back ride the previous week.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

And again, if he limits it to one outburst, sure - I'm with you 100% and we're not even talking about it, nor is the national media.

But MAN it's a bad look when you lose your shit on the sideline, make that comment to Josh - whether it was letting off steam with a friend or not - then double and triple down in the presser when you're 100% in the wrong.

He just...wouldn't...stop. With that said, I'd bet it all that we'll never see it happen again.

Its an accumulation of issues not just that play. The week before he gave the NFL standard line when MVS was absolutely interfered with on a crucial play and no call.

He constantly gets hit in the head and roughed up and very few times gets a flag.

The ridiculous calls on Taylor to start the season started all of this. It isn't Mahomes losing his shit over one play, he finally reached a boiling point.

I'm 100% fine with it as well. When was the last time Reid blasted the officials like that? Does he seem to be emotionally driven when it comes to refs usually? No, that should tell you something.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its an accumulation of issues not just that play. The week before he gave the NFL standard line when MVS was absolutely interfered with on a crucial play and no call.

He constantly gets hit in the head and roughed up and very few times gets a flag.

The ridiculous calls on Taylor to start the season started all of this. It isn't Mahomes losing his shit over one play, he finally reached a boiling point.

I'm 100% fine with it as well. When was the last time Reid blasted the officials like that? Does he seem to be emotionally driven when it comes to refs usually? No, that should tell you something.

Of course it's an accumulation - but for ****'s sake, make your point on the field and move on. I could completely understand this happening on the MVS DPI no call last week, but to go scorched earth and double/triple down when the officials actually did their job correctly?

It makes you look like a ****ing moron.

Just received a text from a member here who said, "this is gonna be an ugly publicity week."

And they are right. Would that have been the case had he lost his shit LAST week? Not in my opinion, I'd bet most would see it as justified.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Of course it's an accumulation - but for ****'s sake, make your point on the field and move on. I could completely understand this happening on the MVS DPI no call last week, but to go scorched earth and double/triple down when the officials actually did their job correctly?

It makes you look like a ****ing moron.

Just received a text from a member here who said, "this is gonna be an ugly publicity week."

And they are right. Would that have been the case had he lost his shit LAST week? Not in my opinion, I'd bet most would see it as justified.

It was technically a penalty, but if the penalty was deviation from common practice in the past it raises questions. Especially when it seems like you have been getting ****ed every single week with bad calls.

To your point, I hope this does make him go nuclear on the field the rest of the season.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

It was technically a penalty, but if the penalty was deviation from common practice in the past it raises questions. Especially when it seems like you have been getting ****ed every single week with bad calls.

Dude, how was that a deviation from common practice?

How often do you see a WR line up a FULL YARD ahead of legal? As DJLN said somewhere, they HAVE to call that. It's blatant. And the fact that Andy came out today and said Toney was only an "inch or two" from legal is a ****ing terrible message to send. Shit, just give the media the same, "I take full responsibility and we'll get it fixed" bullshit that you've been saying all year while never fixing things. That's better than continuing to make it as if it was a bad call, or even a close one.

And I'm not sure what games you're watching, but we GET a lot of calls as well. Everyone here forgets them and focuses on when we get ****ed.

When the team starts acting like the fanbase when it comes to refs, it's a problem.

[Red Dawg]

Toney is an idiot and it's bash Mahomes day in the media.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Coaches blast refs on camera ALL THE TIME. If a QB can't do that then that's just racist!

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Dude, how was that a deviation from common practice?

How often do you see a WR line up a FULL YARD ahead of legal? As DJLN said somewhere, they HAVE to call that. It's blatant. And the fact that Andy came out today and said Toney was only an "inch or two" from legal is a ****ing terrible message to send. Shit, just give the media the same, "I take full responsibility and we'll get it fixed" bullshit that you've been saying all year while never fixing things. That's better than continuing to make it as if it was a bad call, or even a close one.

And I'm not sure what games you're watching, but we GET a lot of calls as well. Everyone here forgets them and focuses on when we get ****ed.

When the team starts acting like the fanbase when it comes to refs, it's a problem.

He wasn't remotely a yard offsides, JFC.

You seem to act like officiating is good and there aren't calls damn near every game that effect the outcome.

Sorry but if it wasn't a common practice to give a warning there, Reid wouldn't have been livid about it.

Kansas City Chiefs coach Andy Reid acknowledged that receiver Kadarius Toney lined up offside on the would-be game-winning play in Sunday’s loss to the Buffalo Bills that was called for a penalty, but also reiterated his assertion that officials typically warn coaches before throwing a flag for those types of violations.

“You see it on both sides (of the ball),” Reid said Monday. “Whether it’s a defensive end lining up in the neutral zone sometimes or that. You just give the head coach a heads up and, in our case, we tell ’em.

“And then if they get called … listen … you were warned. That’s how it’s worked over the years and that’s what I was really trying to get across.”

Reid admitted Monday that Toney was not lined up properly and didn’t check with down judge Mike Carr before the snap — something Reid said the player normally does. The coach added that his criticisms were not meant to serve as an excuse or blame the loss on the officials.

“We’ve always had a good working relationship with these guys and that’s the important part,” he said. “They know when they tell me something … I’m gonna go address the guy like right now and make sure that it gets changed.”

Reid said penalties like this one were among several things Kansas City needs to clean up.

“Do we need to line up right? Yeah. We do.” Reid said. “We’ve gotta take care of that part and not put it in the officials’ hands.”

Andy Reid on the Chiefs' lack of attention to details, especially in late-game situations: "I get paid to teach. I'm going to continue to each. The players are going to continue to work."

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

He wasn't remotely a yard offsides, JFC.

You seem to act like officiating is good and there aren't calls damn near every game that effect the outcome.

Sorry but if it wasn't a common practice to give a warning there, Reid wouldn't have been livid about it.

He wasn't warned because as Andy pointed out today, he never checked with the LJ.

And to be frank, he's ****ing 8 feet from the ball and looking at it. You have to be a moron to not realize you're not even close to legal. As a WR you line up off the center's feet. Toney's back foot is where his front foot should be.

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Where are all those reeruns that said Toney was barely offsides?

Look at where Rice is lined up, legally.

Toney is lined up almost a full yard ahead of Rashee.

And officiating ISN'T good. But this conspiratorial bullshit that the league is against us is ****ing reeruned. It's a fast game played and officiated by humans, who are made to look even worse than they are because every decision can be shown to the TV audience a frame at a time in ****ing 4/8k resolution.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

He wasn't remotely a yard offsides, JFC.

You seem to act like officiating is good and there aren't calls damn near every game that effect the outcome.

Sorry but if it wasn't a common practice to give a warning there, Reid wouldn't have been livid about it.

He may have been "barely" offsides but there is no reason whatsoever to have made it even close. I mean he's like a yard off
If he's behind the line LJ gives him a lot of slack
If he checks LJ either let's it slide or he scoots him back

Easy call. And unfortunately this dumb mistake made Andy and pat look like chicken little. We had everyone on our side last week.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Dude, how was that a deviation from common practice?

How often do you see a WR line up a FULL YARD ahead of legal? As DJLN said somewhere, they HAVE to call that. It's blatant. And the fact that Andy came out today and said Toney was only an "inch or two" from legal is a ****ing terrible message to send. Shit, just give the media the same, "I take full responsibility and we'll get it fixed" bullshit that you've been saying all year while never fixing things. That's better than continuing to make it as if it was a bad call, or even a close one.

And I'm not sure what games you're watching, but we GET a lot of calls as well. Everyone here forgets them and focuses on when we get ****ed.

When the team starts acting like the fanbase when it comes to refs, it's a problem.

Ask Von on the following play.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Raiderhater

Ask Von on the following play.

As @TwistedChief pointed out earlier today, the idea that Miller was offsides on the next play has been proven wrong.

[Pointer19]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I'd bet it all that we'll never see it happen again.

Hopefully as a result of some even officiating.