NFL is reviewing Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes

[RunKC]

Why do I feel like we're about to get ****ed?

While Patrick Mahomes' post-game comments will be reviewed, his on-field yelling aimed at the refs before the game ended and then on-field comments while cameras were rolling and present may be more of an issue. https://t.co/lLCInFjXU6

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 11, 2023

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by bdj23

Amazing that the NFL will review the players but not their shitty ass referees.

Was talking with my lady last night about this. My primary point was; if the NFL is going to take buckets and buckets of money from casinos & gambling sites, allow the Bet MGM Grands and Draft Kings of the world to advertise during games and dedicate time on pre-game shows to talking about betting on the games, you better goddamn be sure that your refs are spotless and consistent every game and every week.

The NFL demands that players and coaches be available to the press, how about doing the same thing for the refs? Make Cheffers and his crew sit at a podium, take questions and defend their calls and explain why they made a certain call at a certain time.

Players and coaches are not allowed to speak about the refs. It's like they are the Lord Voldemort of the NFL, we do not speak their names. The inconsistent nature of some calls by these officiating crews begs the question; why is the NFL so protective of the refs?

As Abe Lemons once said; "You can say something to popes, kings and presidents, but you can't talk to officials. In the next war they ought to give everyone a whistle."

[SHOWTIME]

A lot of the officiating problems can be solved by having a "sky judge" at each game that will buzz down if refs make egregious calls. I realize the speed of the game makes it tough for them to be 100% correct, so someone in the booth with quick access to replay should be able to make corrections.

The other thing I don't like is the make up call. The non-pass interference call on MVS against GB was definitely a make up call for the Mahomes late hit out of bounds (when in actuality he was still in bounds at the time). Don't make a bad call worse by making another bad call.

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

So you're saying the NFL went "Hey, make this a point of emphasis moving forward" and the refs took that to mean "Hey, make this a point of emphasis moving forward for the Chiefs but ignore the rest of the league"?

If they were focusing on it, it would be called in every game against every team.

Or, ignore it for the entire game until the very end. If there REALLY was a genuine interest in mitigating offensive offsides they would've called it the first time, AND every other time.

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by FlaChief58

When are they going to start reviewing the refs and holding them responsible for ****ing up calls every single week. Those assholes have taken the fun out of the game. Every time there's a big play or score, you have to wait 30 seconds to make sure there are no bullshit flags before you can start cheering. They're ruining the game

I mentioned this in another thread, but this is how we watch the games now.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Was talking with my lady last night about this. My primary point was; if the NFL is going to take buckets and buckets of money from casinos & gambling sites, allow the Bet MGM Grands and Draft Kings of the world to advertise during games and dedicate time on pre-game shows to talking about betting on the games, you better goddamn be sure that your refs are spotless and consistent every game and every week.

The NFL demands that players and coaches be available to the press, how about doing the same thing for the refs? Make Cheffers and his crew sit at a podium, take questions and defend their calls and explain why they made a certain call at a certain time.

Players and coaches are not allowed to speak about the refs. It's like they are the Lord Voldemort of the NFL, we do not speak their names. The inconsistent nature of some calls by these officiating crews begs the question; why is the NFL so protective of the refs?

As Abe Lemons once said; "You can say something to popes, kings and presidents, but you can't talk to officials. In the next war they ought to give everyone a whistle."

OUTSTANDING post. Rep...

And I think we're all beyond suspecting the NFL has configured the rules and selected the right employees to enforce them to maximize the profit the generate with the gambling community they've teamed up with.

It's funny that one of the replies to me when we were juxtaposing Sunday's offsides call against the previous week's non-call of DPI was that DPI "is subjective" (which is why I've added "XYZ is subjective" to my spin wheel of official's excuses used to defend a call they made to steer/manipulate the outcome of a game). The truth is that the reply, sadly, is accurate. That's an example of the tools the league has provided officials to allow them to maximise profit.

And it's NOT just the Chiefs, it can be any game or any team, and the outcome doesn't have to be a seemingly inferior team beating a seemingly superior team.

Sadly I don't think you'll see the 32 people who could change this being willing to upset the golden goose.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

A lot of the officiating problems can be solved by having a "sky judge" at each game that will buzz down if refs make egregious calls. I realize the speed of the game makes it tough for them to be 100% correct, so someone in the booth with quick access to replay should be able to make corrections.

The other thing I don't like is the make up call. The non-pass interference call on MVS against GB was definitely a make up call for the Mahomes late hit out of bounds (when in actuality he was still in bounds at the time). Don't make a bad call worse by making another bad call.

While I agree with you overall, let's not forget the call against Green Bay, correct me if I'm wrong, was unnecessary roughness, not a late hit.

That said, it was also a bad call that lead them to them making an even worse call.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

A lot of the officiating problems can be solved by having a "sky judge" at each game that will buzz down if refs make egregious calls. I realize the speed of the game makes it tough for them to be 100% correct, so someone in the booth with quick access to replay should be able to make corrections.

The other thing I don't like is the make up call. The non-pass interference call on MVS against GB was definitely a make up call for the Mahomes late hit out of bounds (when in actuality he was still in bounds at the time). Don't make a bad call worse by making another bad call.

While I agree with you overall, let's not forget the call against Green Bay, correct me if I'm wrong, was unnecessary roughness, not a late hit.

That said, it was also a bad call that lead them to them making an even worse call.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by crispystl

Or, ignore it for the entire game until the very end. If there REALLY was a genuine interest in mitigating offensive offsides they would've called it the first time, AND every other time.

And they would have called it last night too in non-Chiefs games, but alas...

Again, NFL officials call everything they see, but only see what they want.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

A lot of the officiating problems can be solved by having a "sky judge" at each game that will buzz down if refs make egregious calls. I realize the speed of the game makes it tough for them to be 100% correct, so someone in the booth with quick access to replay should be able to make corrections.

The other thing I don't like is the make up call. The non-pass interference call on MVS against GB was definitely a make up call for the Mahomes late hit out of bounds (when in actuality he was still in bounds at the time). Don't make a bad call worse by making another bad call.

If there was a video assistant referee or VAR... The the Chiefs wouldn't have gotten the 15-yard penalty and MVS would still be offsides.

[Gravedigger]

I think the final two minutes of every game should be handled by the sky judge. Take it out of human error on the field, use the cameras and instant replay for controversial calls, have final say from New York, then if they mess it up you can go in front of the people and explain why you called it the way you did. Would take the pressure off refs, keep games clean, the final two minutes is already a rush mode where you need to have the timeouts and urgency to march down the field to tie/win the game and by doing it only in the final two minutes where everything is focused on it won't extend the games a ridiculous amount to get everything right.

Sky judge wouldn't have saved Toney being offsides, but it would've saved MVS getting mauled on that penalty, would've caught Von Miller on his offsides the play right after, would catch lineman with illegal hands the face, choke holds, receivers getting their arms pinned down by DBs, hail mary's would be kept clean as well for illegal contact and holding.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

A lot of the officiating problems can be solved by having a "sky judge" at each game that will buzz down if refs make egregious calls. I realize the speed of the game makes it tough for them to be 100% correct, so someone in the booth with quick access to replay should be able to make corrections.

The other thing I don't like is the make up call. The non-pass interference call on MVS against GB was definitely a make up call for the Mahomes late hit out of bounds (when in actuality he was still in bounds at the time). Don't make a bad call worse by making another bad call.

Pretty sure the call was not for late hit but unnecessary roughness.

[headsnap]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

And they would have called it last night too in non-Chiefs games, but alas...

Again, NFL officials call everything they see, but only see what they want.

a flag was coming out on that play irregardless... Toney just made it easy for them(Refs, NFL, Vegas, etc...). KC wasn't going to win that game period, there would have been a hold or something else called for us to argue over. If Toney had been lining up offsides all game, that again made it an easy flag at that point for the refs. If it wasn't for the incredible play, that included Toney, we'd be here in a vacuum arguing about it instead of it being national news.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

While I agree with you overall, let's not forget the call against Green Bay, correct me if I'm wrong, was unnecessary roughness, not a late hit.

That said, it was also a bad call that lead them to them making an even worse call.

He went high on Mahomes and it was actually helmet to helmet if you rewatch. Yes, he was barely in bounds, but all notable franchise QB's would have gotten that call. People also forget that it was negated by the punch that Pacheco threw on the non fumble return that was horribly officiated. That 15 yard los put us right back to where we were before that play.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

If there was a video assistant referee or VAR... The the Chiefs wouldn't have gotten the 15-yard penalty and MVS would still be offsides.

First of all, we are talking 2 different games here. Against GB, they should have picked up the flag for the late hit on Mahomes. And while it would have hurt KC, it would have been the right call at least. if this happened, maybe they call pass interference. the offsides was against Buffalo and was committed by Toney.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton

NFL is gonna rule they crossed a line.

Hmmm,,,…. Oh, i get it, byaahahahahaha