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Old 12-11-2023, 09:00 PM  
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Seth Keysor: The five stages of 2023 Chiefs fandom
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The five stages of 2023 Chiefs fandom

Let's work towards acceptance of who Kansas City is (a team with a puncher's chance), and who they aren't (a great team).
SETH KEYSOR
DEC 12


I wasn’t mad on Sunday night as I left Arrowhead Stadium. No, seriously, I wasn’t.

Sure, the Chiefs had just lost a(nother) frustrating close game, this time falling by a field goal to a desperate Bills team fighting to stay in the playoff picture. Sure, the Chiefs had basically tanked their chance at the 1-seed in the playoffs and even (gulp) put themselves in some jeopardy of missing the playoffs entirely if they aren’t careful. Sure, three of the last four games have been losses that should have been wins. And sure, once again self-inflicted errors killed what should have been a win. All of those things are quite frustrating. Maddening, even.

And yet, I was in a pretty good mood as I walked out of Arrowhead and drove back to the great white north. Maybe it was because I’d just had yet another fantastic weekend of friends and food (shout out to Meat Mitch, which sent me into a meat-induced food coma Saturday night). Maybe it was because the most beautiful woman in the universe was on my arm as we enjoyed a kidless vacation (love you, kiddos, I swear!). Or maybe it was because I had finally reached a healthy place with the 2023 Chiefs.

The rest is here st the link. It’s free to read.
https://substack.com/app-link/post?p...w96sexBWO5mhQ0
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Old 12-12-2023, 08:21 AM   #31
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Old 12-12-2023, 08:21 AM   #32
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Quit beating ourselves. There hasn't been a loss this year where I've walked away thinking well, that team just totally outplayed us or they're just a better team.

It's always, "WHY DO WE DO SO MUCH STUPID SHIT!"
You need to get to the acceptance phase. The 2019 Chiefs are in the history books. We are entering Phase 2 of the Mahomes era.
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Old 12-12-2023, 08:27 AM   #33
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that o-Line cost us a SB. They were complete shit. Veach got it fixed in one season. He can get the WR room fixed in one off season too.
Agree. However a litmus test for me is whether or not we bring Skyy back. I know he'll be on year three of a rookie deal, but we need to cut him. He brings absolutely nothing to the table at either WR or on ST. He's a waste of a roster spot, and we'd be better off taking a flyer on an UDFA than giving it to Skyy.
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Old 12-12-2023, 08:55 AM   #34
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I remember Patrick Mahomes saying something that provided clarity a little while back,
I’m paraphrasing: To be a dynasty you must go through adversity.
SB 55 and the AFCCG loss to the Bengals already met that bs requirement.
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Solid read, thanks for posting

I'm in the acceptance phase, its too late in the season for drastic change
Screw that. They have a good a chance at a title as anyone else. I'm not accepting shit...
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Yeah, I really don't understand the dudes melting down.

**** we won not one but TWO Super Bowls. We went 25 years without winning a playoff game. That bought me a ****ton of grace. It's really hard to win Super Bowls. This shit was going to happen. It's not my idea of a good time, but I'll always enjoy watching Mahomes to Mahomes things.
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What would it take to change our fortunes?

We have to get much, much better WR play. As far as I can see, the team's fortunes changing this year seem to depend on Rice leveling up two levels to provide the required balance on offense. Rice has some potential and is finally getting the snaps, but there's no hope the others will turn into players they are not. Without a receiver who creates problems, we're going to continue to be far too easy to defend.

The drive-killing penalties and turnovers are a problem too, but can the offense suddenly start being disciplined when the group is just... not? Seems unlikely. There's been very little improvement through 13 games.

I'm at the acceptance phase I think. The Chiefs whiffed on the offseason for the most part and it set us back a year or two.
Nailed it!
I think it gets fixed this off season. Next year it will be scorched earth time!
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**** we won not one but TWO Super Bowls. We went 25 years without winning a playoff game. That bought me a ****ton of grace. It's really hard to win Super Bowls. This shit was going to happen. It's not my idea of a good time, but I'll always enjoy watching Mahomes to Mahomes things.
I just wish that was the reaction to mvs interference instead. That was obviously a ref **** up, but they stayed silent on it. The officials deserve to be called out for deliberate screw ups.
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**** we won not one but TWO Super Bowls. We went 25 years without winning a playoff game. That bought me a ****ton of grace. It's really hard to win Super Bowls. This shit was going to happen. It's not my idea of a good time, but I'll always enjoy watching Mahomes to Mahomes things.
Oh yes. Part II begins next season!
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Agree. However a litmus test for me is whether or not we bring Skyy back. I know he'll be on year three of a rookie deal, but we need to cut him. He brings absolutely nothing to the table at either WR or on ST. He's a waste of a roster spot, and we'd be better off taking a flyer on an UDFA than giving it to Skyy.
Moore and Rice will be retained. So get use to that fact. We will get 5 new ones. I expect Veach to bring in a good WR in free agency. Tag and trade Jones. Use the draft capital to move up in the draft to get a WR.
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Next year will be a revenge tour, but not ready to pack this one in just yet. We have had chances late in every one these losses and that’s with playing really shitty football for the most part. Obviously there are issues in the offense that aren’t going away but if we fix even half of the problems we are looking at a deep run. Maybe I’m in denial phase but this team is capable of way more than they’ve shown up to this point.
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Im not gonna lie, I was in a reallly dark place Sunday night and Monday all day,until about 10pm. That is, when I ran across this thread and it really helped me process my feelings on this team.

Chiefs have a shot, especially since the AFC is in such a weak year. Chiefs can beat anyone. Get Pat to the playoffs with this defense and enjoy the ride!

I think I got caught up in the Anger/bargaining phase he lays out. Refs have been an issue but that was where emotionally I was stuck in. Chiefs used to overcome that trash when they were a great team. They aren't that anymore they are a good team with a shot. Got to re-adjust expectations and enjoy the season instead of being miserable.

Hey now the Dolphins lose, so we have a shot at top seed again. Let's go Chiefs!
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Moore and Rice will be retained. So get use to that fact. We will get 5 new ones. I expect Veach to bring in a good WR in free agency. Tag and trade Jones. Use the draft capital to move up in the draft to get a WR.
Of course Rice will be retained. He's by far the best WR on our roster at this point, and why we're not feeding him the ball more will go down as one of the greatest mysteries of the 2023 season for me. It's really inexcusable.
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I read part of the article but didn't finish. (Could use a proofreader BTW, holy hell typos.)

Bottom line I'm just not there. I still think this team can be great this year. It's an upgraded defense over last year, better O-line, and swap out Juju for Rice. Doesn't add up. Go on a run of wins to finish the season, then unleash hell in the playoffs which don't start until mid January. Shit ain't over.
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