Chiefs Believe what your eyes tell you, not what your heart feels.

scho63 · 12-25-2023, 04:20 PM

Nearly all of us and at a minimum a vast majority has seen this team in the Cassel, Smith and Mahomes era.

Another big chunk have watched the Montana, Green, Gannon, Grbac periods.

And the old farts like me have had to endure Mike Livingston, Mark Vlasic, Steve Pelluer, Bill Kenney and Steve DeBerg.

We ALL know the difference between a really bad team, an average team, an over achiever, an under achiever, a good and great team.

At this point, if you don't realize that this 2023 Chiefs team is average at best and trending down, you need to remove your homer goggles.

I love our team and have spent 53 years rooting for them when it was hard as hell to do and I didn't have other fans to console me after all the loses. I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew.

Mahomes and the Super Bowl delivered incredible joy and pride.

Now after 2 Super Bowls and non-stop winning we have hit an off year. It's easy to do in the NFL and we lasted longer than most teams do winning all the time.

Many of you see it but have remained overly optimistic. God Bless your devotion. I did that already for 50 years and now I can be much more realistic after the SB wins.

Do yourself a favor and be honest with yourself. You see it, you feel it and you know it.

This team has no chance in the playoffs. Don't try to tell me anything can happen, because it really doesn't. Yeah, a neat play here or there or maybe a win against a shit team but even now that is unlikely.

This team is burnt out. Since Game 1 not a ****ing thing has improved and in some cases has gotten worse: Mahomes and Kelce in particular.

When your top two stars are ****ing up and look like they need a month off to rest, you know you are in trouble.

I pray everyone stays healthy, we shut this shit show of a season down, rest our franchise QB before he gets injured or killed. The dude was running for his LIFE all day and our Oline has also gone backwards.

We have a great young defense, can focus on Oline and WRs for draft and signing FAs to rebound in 2024.

From play calling, to turnovers to penalties to oline blocking to drops, this has been a brutally ugly season.

Time to turn the page on 2023 and get our shit fixed ASAP cause it ain't gonna change in 2023.

Pinchshot · 12-25-2023, 04:21 PM

Chiefs fans ever since the 90's are nothing if not realists.

Rainbarrel · 12-25-2023, 04:23 PM

Those tree shirt needles stuck in your sack

Best22 · 12-25-2023, 04:23 PM

This team is hung over from the Super Bowl

“Been there, done that”

They don’t have the fire

They were pissed off at the end of 2021 and further motivated by naysayers after we traded away Tyreek Hill. Led to a 17-3 season and Super Bowl win. They overachieved and played great team football and Mahomes was clearly the best player in football

In 2023, the fire isn’t there, guys were more satisfied. Mahomes is off his game, the play calling is worse, the receivers regressed, the discipline is worse

Maybe going one and done will light the fire under everyone’s ass again like the 2021 season did

493rd · 12-25-2023, 04:23 PM

Good post I think you nailed it!

Red Dawg · 12-25-2023, 04:24 PM

Hard to argue. They looked worn out and uninterested. Played anlot of games the last 4 years.

Cleavage · 12-25-2023, 04:24 PM

Oh come on...Steve Pelluer wasn't that bad.

Kman34 · 12-25-2023, 04:25 PM

I'm really excited about the off season.. New WRs and a hungry underdog attitude and we will be back.. Unfortunately things are stacked against us this year..

**Dartgod** · 12-25-2023, 04:26 PM

We left the game with 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. It was obvious that the offense was not going to lead us to a victory and I didn't feel like sitting in traffic for an hour after the game was over.

I can't remember the last time I left a game early, but it was the right decision. 0-2 for me this year.

Blech...

arrowheadnation · 12-25-2023, 04:27 PM

If our down years are going to consist of a playoff appearance and a division championship, I suppose I can take one every now and then. My only fear is that this year has broken Mahomes. I could not provide an honest explanation to family members why he would not throw the ball over 10 yards today. It’s like after he threw that pick, he lost his nerve.

scho63 · 12-25-2023, 04:28 PM

Even the NFL schedulers ****ed us with 6 ****ing teams all having extended time off before playing us. How is that possible? Over 1/3 of our schedule against teams with 8, 10 14 days rest.

Let's not even talk about the penalties, another **** job.

TomBarndtsTwin · 12-25-2023, 04:28 PM

Honestly wondering if this team is a little burnt out. 5 straight years of playing full seasons and going to the Title Game or Super Bowl. You can only hold that kind of ‘focus’ together for so long. Think it’s REALLY wearing on Pat and Travis this year. They’re tired. At times, Kelce appears checked out. Mahomes is beyond frustrated with the offense.

Think they just all need a break this off season. Likely a quick one and done in the postseason (if they can manage to win one of the last 2 games). That’s okay, though

Rest and refresh. Veach: fix the freakin WR room. It’s embarrassing. Get the LT spot solidified. Be back next year to kick ass and take the AFC over again.

This has not been a fun year, but still a lot of great years coming up going forward.

Kman34 · 12-25-2023, 04:33 PM

Patrick will give us all he has till the end this year but when its over I bet you will see a renewed hunger with him and Travis next year.. Travis will be back for one more year. Some competent WRs will help him get open..

Fish · 12-25-2023, 04:35 PM

OP, please drink a tall glass of Christmas Antifreeze.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 12-25-2023, 04:36 PM

The Playoffs are all that matter. If the Chiefs win it all people will say they were just sleep walking all season. If they play LIKE THAT in the Playoffs it's over anyway.

12-25-2023, 04:20 PM
scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $-820000	Believe what your eyes tell you, not what your heart feels. Nearly all of us and at a minimum a vast majority has seen this team in the Cassel, Smith and Mahomes era. Another big chunk have watched the Montana, Green, Gannon, Grbac periods. And the old farts like me have had to endure Mike Livingston, Mark Vlasic, Steve Pelluer, Bill Kenney and Steve DeBerg. We ALL know the difference between a really bad team, an average team, an over achiever, an under achiever, a good and great team. At this point, if you don't realize that this 2023 Chiefs team is average at best and trending down, you need to remove your homer goggles. I love our team and have spent 53 years rooting for them when it was hard as hell to do and I didn't have other fans to console me after all the loses. I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew. Mahomes and the Super Bowl delivered incredible joy and pride. Now after 2 Super Bowls and non-stop winning we have hit an off year. It's easy to do in the NFL and we lasted longer than most teams do winning all the time. Many of you see it but have remained overly optimistic. God Bless your devotion. I did that already for 50 years and now I can be much more realistic after the SB wins. Do yourself a favor and be honest with yourself. You see it, you feel it and you know it. This team has no chance in the playoffs. Don't try to tell me anything can happen, because it really doesn't. Yeah, a neat play here or there or maybe a win against a shit team but even now that is unlikely. This team is burnt out. Since Game 1 not a **ing thing has improved and in some cases has gotten worse: Mahomes and Kelce in particular. When your top two stars are **ing up and look like they need a month off to rest, you know you are in trouble. I pray everyone stays healthy, we shut this shit show of a season down, rest our franchise QB before he gets injured or killed. The dude was running for his LIFE all day and our Oline has also gone backwards. We have a great young defense, can focus on Oline and WRs for draft and signing FAs to rebound in 2024. From play calling, to turnovers to penalties to oline blocking to drops, this has been a brutally ugly season. Time to turn the page on 2023 and get our shit fixed ASAP cause it ain't gonna change in 2023.
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12-25-2023, 04:21 PM	#2
Pinchshot Veteran Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: Jax FL Casino cash: $-1559500	Chiefs fans ever since the 90's are nothing if not realists.
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Rainbarrel MVP Join Date: Mar 2021 Casino cash: $-729600	Those tree shirt needles stuck in your sack
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Best22 MVP Join Date: May 2016 Location: World Boxing Champs Casino cash: $1910400	This team is hung over from the Super Bowl “Been there, done that” They don’t have the fire They were pissed off at the end of 2021 and further motivated by naysayers after we traded away Tyreek Hill. Led to a 17-3 season and Super Bowl win. They overachieved and played great team football and Mahomes was clearly the best player in football In 2023, the fire isn’t there, guys were more satisfied. Mahomes is off his game, the play calling is worse, the receivers regressed, the discipline is worse Maybe going one and done will light the fire under everyone’s ass again like the 2021 season did
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12-25-2023, 04:23 PM	#5
493rd GDT Contributor Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: * Casino cash: $-409600	Good post I think you nailed it!
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12-25-2023, 04:24 PM	#6
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $1352858	Hard to argue. They looked worn out and uninterested. Played anlot of games the last 4 years. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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12-25-2023, 04:25 PM	#8
Kman34 My Mamma Says Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Glass Cage Of Emotion Casino cash: $-1818214 VARSITY	I'm really excited about the off season.. New WRs and a hungry underdog attitude and we will be back.. Unfortunately things are stacked against us this year.. __________________ SFC... Stay ****ing Calm..
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12-25-2023, 04:26 PM	#9
Dartgod Wasted away again... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: in Margaritaville Casino cash: $3710000	We left the game with 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. It was obvious that the offense was not going to lead us to a victory and I didn't feel like sitting in traffic for an hour after the game was over. I can't remember the last time I left a game early, but it was the right decision. 0-2 for me this year. Blech... __________________ If you shed a tear for me, please make it a tear of joy. -Joe Tracy (Nzoner) . .
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12-25-2023, 04:27 PM	#10
arrowheadnation MONTANA #19 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $3717357	If our down years are going to consist of a playoff appearance and a division championship, I suppose I can take one every now and then. My only fear is that this year has broken Mahomes. I could not provide an honest explanation to family members why he would not throw the ball over 10 yards today. It’s like after he threw that pick, he lost his nerve. __________________ Things I need to happen in order to die happy.... KU wins a National Championship....Check! The Royals win a World Series....Check! The Chiefs win a Super Bowl....FINALLY!!!
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scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $-820000	Even the NFL schedulers **ed us with 6 ing teams all having extended time off before playing us. How is that possible? Over 1/3 of our schedule against teams with 8, 10 14 days rest. Let's not even talk about the penalties, another job. __________________ "The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!" ~Redd Foxx~** ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
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12-25-2023, 04:28 PM	#12
TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $2409883	Honestly wondering if this team is a little burnt out. 5 straight years of playing full seasons and going to the Title Game or Super Bowl. You can only hold that kind of ‘focus’ together for so long. Think it’s REALLY wearing on Pat and Travis this year. They’re tired. At times, Kelce appears checked out. Mahomes is beyond frustrated with the offense. Think they just all need a break this off season. Likely a quick one and done in the postseason (if they can manage to win one of the last 2 games). That’s okay, though Rest and refresh. Veach: fix the freakin WR room. It’s embarrassing. Get the LT spot solidified. Be back next year to kick ass and take the AFC over again. This has not been a fun year, but still a lot of great years coming up going forward.
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12-25-2023, 04:33 PM	#13
Kman34 My Mamma Says Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Glass Cage Of Emotion Casino cash: $-1818214 VARSITY	Patrick will give us all he has till the end this year but when its over I bet you will see a renewed hunger with him and Travis next year.. Travis will be back for one more year. Some competent WRs will help him get open.. __________________ SFC... Stay ****ing Calm..
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12-25-2023, 04:36 PM	#15
ThyKingdomCome15 MVP Join Date: Jun 2019 Casino cash: $-579600	The Playoffs are all that matter. If the Chiefs win it all people will say they were just sleep walking all season. If they play LIKE THAT in the Playoffs it's over anyway.
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