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Old 12-25-2023, 04:20 PM  
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Believe what your eyes tell you, not what your heart feels.
Nearly all of us and at a minimum a vast majority has seen this team in the Cassel, Smith and Mahomes era.

Another big chunk have watched the Montana, Green, Gannon, Grbac periods.

And the old farts like me have had to endure Mike Livingston, Mark Vlasic, Steve Pelluer, Bill Kenney and Steve DeBerg.

We ALL know the difference between a really bad team, an average team, an over achiever, an under achiever, a good and great team.

At this point, if you don't realize that this 2023 Chiefs team is average at best and trending down, you need to remove your homer goggles.

I love our team and have spent 53 years rooting for them when it was hard as hell to do and I didn't have other fans to console me after all the loses. I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew.

Mahomes and the Super Bowl delivered incredible joy and pride.

Now after 2 Super Bowls and non-stop winning we have hit an off year. It's easy to do in the NFL and we lasted longer than most teams do winning all the time.

Many of you see it but have remained overly optimistic. God Bless your devotion. I did that already for 50 years and now I can be much more realistic after the SB wins.

Do yourself a favor and be honest with yourself. You see it, you feel it and you know it.

This team has no chance in the playoffs. Don't try to tell me anything can happen, because it really doesn't. Yeah, a neat play here or there or maybe a win against a shit team but even now that is unlikely.

This team is burnt out. Since Game 1 not a ****ing thing has improved and in some cases has gotten worse: Mahomes and Kelce in particular.

When your top two stars are ****ing up and look like they need a month off to rest, you know you are in trouble.

I pray everyone stays healthy, we shut this shit show of a season down, rest our franchise QB before he gets injured or killed. The dude was running for his LIFE all day and our Oline has also gone backwards.

We have a great young defense, can focus on Oline and WRs for draft and signing FAs to rebound in 2024.

From play calling, to turnovers to penalties to oline blocking to drops, this has been a brutally ugly season.

Time to turn the page on 2023 and get our shit fixed ASAP cause it ain't gonna change in 2023.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:54 PM   #31
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Even the NFL schedulers ****ed us with 6 ****ing teams all having extended time off before playing us. How is that possible? Over 1/3 of our schedule against teams with 8, 10 14 days rest.



Let's not even talk about the penalties, another **** job.
They use AI to build the schedule. So basically, we are losing because of the terminator. **** you Arnold!
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:54 PM   #32
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What's weird to me is how absolutely disjointed they look on offense. A team led by Reid and Mahomes is sloppy, inefficient and basically can't run an actual NFL passing game.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:55 PM   #34
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Yet this same team was 6-1.

They must have been doing something right.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:56 PM   #35
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Your effort on this post is weaker than the effort of the 2023 Chiefs.
OP was a lot of words to tell everyone this team isn't as good as previous years like you just discovered the human genome.

If you think it's "time to turn the page on 2023", then stop watching. What else is there to say?

I'm thinking fans should still show up to the stadium, the team should still show up every week, that sort of thing.

Unless "turn the page on 2023" means something else.

Is there something specific I should be doing?
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:56 PM   #36
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What's weird to me is how absolutely disjointed they look on offense. A team led by Reid and Mahomes is sloppy, inefficient and basically can't run an actual NFL passing game.
It’s Week 16 and they still don’t have a defined WR rotation.

Also it was clear today why they haven’t used Rice much in the downfield passing game.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:57 PM   #37
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They said it in postgame, Mahomes missed wide open receivers. And by missed, I mean not throwing it to the open receiver.

He seems a bit skittish and saw him several times cringe expecting a sack, and then realizing he had an out and scrambled.

Outside of our defense, there has been little good to this season. Every game outside of the bears has been a struggle.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:58 PM   #38
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Yet this same team was 6-1.
Tale of 2 halves. Happens all the time in the NFL. Now the ineptitude is in their heads. First half of the year there was still optimism they could clean it up. That’s long gone at this point.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:59 PM   #39
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It’s Week 16 and they still don’t have a defined WR rotation.

Also it was clear today why they haven’t used Rice much in the downfield passing game.
Rice isn't a good route runner yet...he's a manufactured touch WR..we have 3 guys who are manufactured touch WRs...that's why all the screens are back. None of these WRs can just run his route and get open.
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Old 12-25-2023, 05:00 PM   #40
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Agree with most of this…
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Something seem wrong with Mahomes physically and mentally. He doesn't look right.
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Rice isn't a good route runner yet...he's a manufactured touch WR..we have 3 guys who are manufactured touch WRs...that's why all the screens are back. None of these WRs can just run his route and get open.
You’re exactly correct. They aren’t good enough to win on their own and it’s a massive problem. If the run game isn’t working we’re unable to consistently move the ball down the field unless Mahomes makes improv plays. We need a veteran who can run routes and some young guys who can stretch the field.
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Something seem wrong with Mahomes physically and mentally. He doesn't look right.
He’s inside his own head, we saw this in 2021.

Back then, however, he had a prime Reek and Kelce to get himself out of the funk. This year is going to be a bit harder.
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Agree with most of this…
Yup dude nailed it. Tied of the glossing over nonsense. What he said about Mahomes is both saddening and infuriating at the same time.
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