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Old 12-25-2023, 03:13 PM  
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:17 PM   #46
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How about a few more ****ing screen passes in the flats for no gain? Maybe that'll help.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:18 PM   #47
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Apparently he should have gotten them something else.
He should have saved the money for a WR contract
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:23 PM   #48
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How about a few more ****ing screen passes in the flats for no gain? Maybe that'll help.
The plays for no gain are bad. But even worse are the negative plays. Too many times this team will get blown up for a loss of ****ing 6 on the first play of a drive or a series. It's pretty incredible how often it happens. This offense is dysfunctional to put it as mildly as I can. Part of it is on coaching.

It's also getting sick of seeing the other teams want it more. I think a bit of complacency that has developed over the past off-season.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:23 PM   #49
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I counted multiple times that game that the team wasn’t ready at the line because the plays weren’t coming in quick enough. None of this disorganization was happening last year with EB.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:31 PM   #50
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I counted multiple times that game that the team wasn’t ready at the line because the plays weren’t coming in quick enough. None of this disorganization was happening last year with EB.
Yup. I think EB was more valuable that we thought.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:33 PM   #51
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Not a big fan of throwing the coach under the bus when the players don't execute. This really looked like a 1980s Chiefs team; good defense and an offense that you hoped wouldn't lose the game for you.

The Chiefs had the momentum; had just taken the lead, gotten the ball back and then does a wildcat option play against a defense that had been getting great penetration all day. I guess since it worked the drive before, try it again?

I know we all want someone to blame; if the captain of the ship is responsible for the actions of his crew, this is on the head coach.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:33 PM   #52
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No one fears us stretching the field any more so they have all the short routes covered.

And there were a few times today that I was scratching my head at some of the passes that Mahomes was throwing. It looked like he and the receivers were listening to a different call in the huddle
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:33 PM   #53
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It’s Andy’s offense. But the fact remains he did take a lot of input from EB and now Nagy.

The new input and coaching just doesn’t look like anything but a net negative.

It seems like every aspect of our offense from playcalls, situational football, discipline and desire is worse. And not by a little bit.

I would love to hear we moved him back to another coaching position and found new blood.

Reid isn’t getting younger and it looks like the OC position matters more than was thought.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:34 PM   #54
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Yeah those play calls were awful but Andy is calling plays not Nagy
I’m sure Reid is calling plays. I’m not just blaming Nagy, just speaking more to RunKC’s comment about the players not playing well.

Questionable play calls and this here as well:

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I counted multiple times that game that the team wasn’t ready at the line because the plays weren’t coming in quick enough. None of this disorganization was happening last year with EB.
These things are all on the coaching staff. We burned a timeout for no apparent reason with like 12 minutes left in the 2nd and then had to burn another before the 4th and 1 from our own 30.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:34 PM   #55
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Nagy absolutely has to go. The regression of the offense is alarming.

I'm afraid that the egos within the FO won't actually do it though. And we will probably bring in some ****ing reerun from Chicago that Nagy and some dumbass fans want. Only to anoint him the savior of the WR room before a down has been played.
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:41 PM   #56
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Offensive coordinators under Andy shouldn't get too much of the credit or blame for the offense. This is Andy’s offense. This team just doesn’t have playmakers. That’s the problem, not the OC.
Yup, thank you. Look I don’t know what to think about Nagy but if you think Reid, a notorious micromanager on offense, sees a car crash and isn’t deeply involved with coaching and playcalling you don’t know these guys very well. I don’t trust Nagy but I trust the hell out of Andy that if there was a magic switch we could pull he would’ve tried it by now

For now we just try to make it work. But I dont want to keep throwing everyone under the bus from Nagy to mahomes when it’s clear these guys are dealing with guys who are severely limited
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Nagy absolutely has to go. The regression of the offense is alarming.

I'm afraid that the egos within the FO won't actually do it though. And we will probably bring in some ****ing reerun from Chicago that Nagy and some dumbass fans want. Only to anoint him the savior of the WR room before a down has been played.
I mean, the last time we did this we refused to fire EB and won a Super Bowl. This FO has earned way more than enough trust to know they’re not gonna take these issues lightly
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Old 12-25-2023, 05:00 PM   #58
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That's actually a good point.

Too bad we know that Reid is loyal to a fault. Like, if Sutton didn't retire, he would still be the DC.
Ugh, still trying to forget Sutton, but unfortunately, you are correct.
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Yup, thank you. Look I don’t know what to think about Nagy but if you think Reid, a notorious micromanager on offense, sees a car crash and isn’t deeply involved with coaching and playcalling you don’t know these guys very well. I don’t trust Nagy but I trust the hell out of Andy that if there was a magic switch we could pull he would’ve tried it by now

For now we just try to make it work. But I dont want to keep throwing everyone under the bus from Nagy to mahomes when it’s clear these guys are dealing with guys who are severely limited
This is wrong…go watch Nagy’s old Bears tape and it is the exact crap that we are running…no vertical passing game, no imagination, we now have the Bears offense with the best QB on the planet…
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Old 12-25-2023, 05:03 PM   #60
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Playcalls are fine but the talent sucks. EB looked good with Sammy Watkins, Tyreek Hill, prime Kelce, Fisher and Schwartz at tackle along with Damien Williams.



Are you really stupid enough to think the offense looks this bad if those players at those points of their career were playing today?
Play calls are fine?

What games are you watching?
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