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scho63 · 12-25-2023, 04:20 PM

Nearly all of us and at a minimum a vast majority has seen this team in the Cassel, Smith and Mahomes era.

Another big chunk have watched the Montana, Green, Gannon, Grbac periods.

And the old farts like me have had to endure Mike Livingston, Mark Vlasic, Steve Pelluer, Bill Kenney and Steve DeBerg.

We ALL know the difference between a really bad team, an average team, an over achiever, an under achiever, a good and great team.

At this point, if you don't realize that this 2023 Chiefs team is average at best and trending down, you need to remove your homer goggles.

I love our team and have spent 53 years rooting for them when it was hard as hell to do and I didn't have other fans to console me after all the loses. I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew.

Mahomes and the Super Bowl delivered incredible joy and pride.

Now after 2 Super Bowls and non-stop winning we have hit an off year. It's easy to do in the NFL and we lasted longer than most teams do winning all the time.

Many of you see it but have remained overly optimistic. God Bless your devotion. I did that already for 50 years and now I can be much more realistic after the SB wins.

Do yourself a favor and be honest with yourself. You see it, you feel it and you know it.

This team has no chance in the playoffs. Don't try to tell me anything can happen, because it really doesn't. Yeah, a neat play here or there or maybe a win against a shit team but even now that is unlikely.

This team is burnt out. Since Game 1 not a ****ing thing has improved and in some cases has gotten worse: Mahomes and Kelce in particular.

When your top two stars are ****ing up and look like they need a month off to rest, you know you are in trouble.

I pray everyone stays healthy, we shut this shit show of a season down, rest our franchise QB before he gets injured or killed. The dude was running for his LIFE all day and our Oline has also gone backwards.

We have a great young defense, can focus on Oline and WRs for draft and signing FAs to rebound in 2024.

From play calling, to turnovers to penalties to oline blocking to drops, this has been a brutally ugly season.

Time to turn the page on 2023 and get our shit fixed ASAP cause it ain't gonna change in 2023.

Chiefspants · 12-25-2023, 05:07 PM

WE’RE ONTO CINCINATTI.

**notorious** · 12-25-2023, 05:08 PM

Not bad when our worst year in almost a decade results in winning the division.

FloridaMan88 · 12-25-2023, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Not bad when our worst year in almost a decade results in winning the division.

That hasn’t happened yet.

**notorious** · 12-25-2023, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

That hasn’t happened yet.

It will.

Coochie liquor · 12-25-2023, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

OP, please drink a tall glass of Christmas Antifreeze.

Pour me one too big dog. And make it a double!

mschiefs1984 · 12-25-2023, 05:16 PM

I have come to terms with the truth that this team just isn't a Super bowl level team. It happens.

On the bright side with all the talk after trading Hill last year and how Mahomes responded I can't wait to see what he does after the upcoming talk this year.

Coochie liquor · 12-25-2023, 05:16 PM

Chiefs haven’t won at Arrowhead since 10/22

FloridaMan88 · 12-25-2023, 05:17 PM

Body language tells all
— Gehrig Dieter (@GehrigDieter) December 25, 2023

CapsLockKey · 12-25-2023, 05:18 PM

Sorry if this is homer glasses but this is a good team and can still beat anyone, but because they have a top tier defense. All the offense has to do is not screw up and gift 14 points to the other team. All the commentators could talk about the whole game was how the KC offense was having a tough time but the Chiefs defense almost completely shut down the raiders until the last drive.

kcpasco · 12-25-2023, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

That hasn’t happened yet.

I think it will. I have more confidence that the Raiders will have something gift wrapped and somehow manage to fall flat on their faces more than the Chiefs taking care of business though.

TEX · 12-25-2023, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

The Playoffs are all that matter. If the Chiefs win it all people will say they were just sleep walking all season. If they play LIKE THAT in the Playoffs it's over anyway.

Win it all? This team is 1 and done. But that should in no way take anything away from past accomplishments. But they certainly need to make major changes in the offseason.

Chiefshrink · 12-25-2023, 05:22 PM

It's very difficult for the majority on this board to do that scho because the majority on this board have never played the game. But you are correct. Always trust your eyes and what you see. Chiefs offense has been off all year long. And it's a combination of many things both physical, mental and emotional no doubt.

mschiefs1984 · 12-25-2023, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey

Sorry if this is homer glasses but this is a good team and can still beat anyone, but because they have a top tier defense. All the offense has to do is not screw up and gift 14 points to the other team. All the commentators could talk about the whole game was how the KC offense was having a tough time but the Chiefs defense almost completely shut down the raiders until the last drive.

The question is why should anyone think that the offense won't find a way to screw it up at this point. At some point it is what it is

ThyKingdomCome15 · 12-25-2023, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Does Andy have the energy and motivation to aggressively re-imagine the offense this offseason?

It’s going to take an infusion of new ideas… in addition to personnel upgrades… to get this offense back to its previous standard.

Keeping Nagy and re-arranging his existing in-house coaching staff won’t cut it.

An infusion of talent.

JohnnyHammersticks · 12-25-2023, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Yet this same team was 6-1.

They must have been doing something right.

And then Travis started dating that Tater Smith BITCH and everything flamed the **** OUT!! Who’s with me???

12-25-2023, 04:20 PM
scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $-820000	Believe what your eyes tell you, not what your heart feels. Nearly all of us and at a minimum a vast majority has seen this team in the Cassel, Smith and Mahomes era. Another big chunk have watched the Montana, Green, Gannon, Grbac periods. And the old farts like me have had to endure Mike Livingston, Mark Vlasic, Steve Pelluer, Bill Kenney and Steve DeBerg. We ALL know the difference between a really bad team, an average team, an over achiever, an under achiever, a good and great team. At this point, if you don't realize that this 2023 Chiefs team is average at best and trending down, you need to remove your homer goggles. I love our team and have spent 53 years rooting for them when it was hard as hell to do and I didn't have other fans to console me after all the loses. I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew. Mahomes and the Super Bowl delivered incredible joy and pride. Now after 2 Super Bowls and non-stop winning we have hit an off year. It's easy to do in the NFL and we lasted longer than most teams do winning all the time. Many of you see it but have remained overly optimistic. God Bless your devotion. I did that already for 50 years and now I can be much more realistic after the SB wins. Do yourself a favor and be honest with yourself. You see it, you feel it and you know it. This team has no chance in the playoffs. Don't try to tell me anything can happen, because it really doesn't. Yeah, a neat play here or there or maybe a win against a shit team but even now that is unlikely. This team is burnt out. Since Game 1 not a **ing thing has improved and in some cases has gotten worse: Mahomes and Kelce in particular. When your top two stars are **ing up and look like they need a month off to rest, you know you are in trouble. I pray everyone stays healthy, we shut this shit show of a season down, rest our franchise QB before he gets injured or killed. The dude was running for his LIFE all day and our Oline has also gone backwards. We have a great young defense, can focus on Oline and WRs for draft and signing FAs to rebound in 2024. From play calling, to turnovers to penalties to oline blocking to drops, this has been a brutally ugly season. Time to turn the page on 2023 and get our shit fixed ASAP cause it ain't gonna change in 2023.
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