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Old 12-25-2023, 03:13 PM  
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Old 12-25-2023, 05:05 PM   #61
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Again what do you want Andy or Nagy to do here? OL gets killed and these guys can't get open. Kelce like I said looks slow. He always used to beat single coverage on these plays.

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Old 12-25-2023, 05:07 PM   #62
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Again what do you want Andy or Nagy to do here? OL gets killed and these guys can't get open. Kelce like I said looks slow. He always used to beat single coverage on these plays.
We ran a screen to Kelce and then ran the same screen on the opposite side the very next play

Nagy has to have some input. This is the sane stuff he did in Chicago.

Nagy is hot garbage
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Old 12-25-2023, 05:08 PM   #63
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I honestly don't give a shit what happens to Matt Nagy, as long as it makes Mahomes better. Mahomes played like absolute dogshit today.
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Old 12-25-2023, 05:08 PM   #64
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If they could run for shit today, it would have helped. The running game was decent the last few weeks.

Today it was zilch. This offense, without a running a game, is scary bad. Throwing on every play without WRs looks exactly like it did today. Bowling shoe ugly.
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Old 12-25-2023, 05:09 PM   #65
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Andy needs a check and right now we don’t have that

Even the scripted plays are aids
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Old 12-25-2023, 05:10 PM   #66
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When you have a lack of talent, it becomes more important to design plays to the players strengths. Nagy is not able to coach to the strengths of the players he has on the roster.
Even worse, he can't identify plays and concepts that attack the specific defense we are playing.

Its like he is calling plays using a bingo ball tumbler. It's just random play after random play.

He may be a decent QB coach, but he is a terrible OC and HC. Makes me believe that what Alex Smith did his last year in KC was basically just Smith peaking, and Nagy used Smith's success to get head coaching job.
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Old 12-25-2023, 05:16 PM   #67
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We ran a screen to Kelce and then ran the same screen on the opposite side the very next play

Nagy has to have some input. This is the sane stuff he did in Chicago.

Nagy is hot garbage
When your OL is getting skull****ed and you're WR'd can't get open your playbook shrinks real quick.

They tried regular plays. Mahomes got sacked and hit over and over and over again
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Old 12-25-2023, 05:18 PM   #68
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We ran a screen to Kelce and then ran the same screen on the opposite side the very next play

Nagy has to have some input. This is the sane stuff he did in Chicago.

Nagy is hot garbage
Noticed that as well. Reeked of arrogance on offensive play calling. Even the Raiders weren't going to fall for that junior league bullshit.

Absolutely right it is the same dumb shit he did in Chicago.
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When your OL is getting skull****ed and you're WR'd can't get open your playbook shrinks real quick.

They tried regular plays. Mahomes got sacked and hit over and over and over again
Nah, it was arrogant to think he can run the same play on the other side that just got blew up the play before.
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Looks like Chicago and Alex Smith's offense
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I’m no fan of Nagy and I always thought it was bizarre how they wanted to get rid of EB (2 rings).

That aside, our offense is severely lacking receiving talent.
Until that’s addressed, it’s not getting better.

Kelce is showing his age. Father Time is undefeated in the NFL.

Rice is a solid #2. The rest need to be cut.
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I don't know if it's really possible to say how much Nagy is responsible for the incredible fall off of the offense.


But I'm near 100% certain Nagy called that gimmick play that had Pat pretending to be the RB that ended up being fumbled for a LVR defensive TD. Andy has never called a play like that to start a series inside his own 20 that I can recall, and I was watching his offenses when he was HC for PHI. That one just didn't look like an Andy call at all to me.
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Noticed that as well. Reeked of arrogance on offensive play calling. Even the Raiders weren't going to fall for that junior league bullshit.

Absolutely right it is the same dumb shit he did in Chicago.
Arrogance was putting an unqualified coach in the WR room, when what you needed was a veteran coach to bring these young guys along.

I was ready for Bienemy to move on, hoping for a draft pick…didn’t get a pick, and got a scrub to coach the WRs, because Andy is full of arrogance when it comes to plug and playing his coaching staff.

A terrible decision that has come to haunt.
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Again what do you want Andy or Nagy to do here? OL gets killed and these guys can't get open. Kelce like I said looks slow. He always used to beat single coverage on these plays.
I’ll admit, this one is tough.

No pocket either.
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Looks like Chicago and Alex Smith's offense
Sure does.
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