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Old 12-25-2023, 03:13 PM  
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Old 12-25-2023, 06:16 PM   #76
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When your OL is getting skull****ed and you're WR'd can't get open your playbook shrinks real quick.

They tried regular plays. Mahomes got sacked and hit over and over and over again
We haven’t looked great all year. We’ve repeatedly thrown dumb WR screens and stupid RB swing passes on third-and-short.
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Old 12-25-2023, 06:18 PM   #77
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Arrogance was putting an unqualified coach in the WR room, when what you needed was a veteran coach to bring these young guys along.

I was ready for Bienemy to move on, hoping for a draft pick…didn’t get a pick, and got a scrub to coach the WRs, because Andy is full of arrogance when it comes to plug and playing his coaching staff.

A terrible decision that has come to haunt.

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Old 12-25-2023, 06:31 PM   #78
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Old 12-25-2023, 06:34 PM   #79
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Old 12-25-2023, 06:38 PM   #81
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People are quick to shit on Nagy but he is the same OC during the season Alex Smith was considered an MVP candidate. And the same guy who played a key role in us winning the SB last year. Nagy is not the problem. Playcalling is not the problem. The execution and self discipline are the problem. Receivers dropping the ball. Pat turning the ball over in two straight drives, resulting in the fade scoring 14 points in 7 seconds. This has been the problem all season.
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Old 12-25-2023, 06:54 PM   #82
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People are quick to shit on Nagy but he is the same OC during the season Alex Smith was considered an MVP candidate. And the same guy who played a key role in us winning the SB last year. Nagy is not the problem. Playcalling is not the problem. The execution and self discipline are the problem. Receivers dropping the ball. Pat turning the ball over in two straight drives, resulting in the fade scoring 14 points in 7 seconds. This has been the problem all season.
When pederson was here people couldn’t believe he was hired as HC when all he did was hold a clipboard. Then Nagy revitalized the offense because Reid gave a rookie oc significant control. Then EB was a revelation, until the chiefs sucked because the chiefs gave him more control, and then they won a Super Bowl because they took away all his responsibility. Now Nagy comes in and the offense is struggling because Nagy has too much control over the offense.

It’s always been about Reid. Ups and downs. And it will be about Reid when this team turns it around next year (and people will inevitably say it’s because we neutered Nagy)
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Old 12-25-2023, 07:13 PM   #83
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Old 12-25-2023, 07:22 PM   #84
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We haven’t looked great all year. We’ve repeatedly thrown dumb WR screens and stupid RB swing passes on third-and-short.
Don't blame them. Talent deficiency kills the playbook. Nagy was awesome in 2017 when we had weapons. Well until Alex went fetal.

Get the weapons and the points will come
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Old 12-25-2023, 07:25 PM   #85
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What do you want Andy or Nagy to do with this offense? They have no talent on it and nobody wants to talk about Kelce getting old and slow.

Our OL got skull ****ed by 4 DL all day long. They got their asses kicked. Bill Walsh couldn't out scheme that
Sorry if it's been said. But less read option with Mahomes at RB would be nice.
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Old 12-25-2023, 09:51 PM   #87
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Arrogance was putting an unqualified coach in the WR room, when what you needed was a veteran coach to bring these young guys along.

I was ready for Bienemy to move on, hoping for a draft pick…didn’t get a pick, and got a scrub to coach the WRs, because Andy is full of arrogance when it comes to plug and playing his coaching staff.

A terrible decision that has come to haunt.
I can agree with that. There is no one person to blame though. Blame goes around to many people.

Beyond the position coach I think they miss a real vet presence in the WR room.
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I actually trust that Andy's extensive experience will enable him to identify coaching and personnel issues and get them fixed. Counterpoint: WRs. Got it. Can't fix personnel until the offseason.
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Has Andy's WCO been figured out by the league?

Look at Andy/Nagy, Doug Pederson and EB this season. All started off okay and then have gotten worse and worse as the year has gone on.

Look at all of the struggles from the Chiefs, Jags and Commanders offenses since Halloween.
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