Off-season WR possibilities

[Reerun_KC]

Seeing a lot of teams with sub .500 records with WRs that need to get with Mahomes.

Who is available and who would you like to see us pursue to go with Rice and Watson.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I'm fascinated by this place.

Spend all season bitching about our WR's, and then gush over FA's that really don't solve our problem.

Better than bad does not equal good.

Either sign/trade for an alpha or draft the best you can in R1.

Otherwise, a lot of the suggestions in this thread are half measures - which is why we're in this spot to begin with.

We are bad precisely because not only do we not have elite WRs, our bottom of roster guys suck too.

Last offseason guys were saying every WR that wasn’t a superstar sucked.

Everyone was washed , etc

[Mecca]

Odunze would be the perfect fit but that ain't happening so we're probably looking at Troy Franklin.

[O.city]

It's the top of the group that kills you, not the bottom. If you had this group, minus MVS as your 4/5/6 type guys, you're fine.

Toney as the #4/fringe #3 guy is a really talented room.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's the top of the group that kills you, not the bottom. If you had this group, minus MVS as your 4/5/6 type guys, you're fine.

Toney as the #4/fringe #3 guy is a really talented room.

Exactly.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I'm fascinated by this place.

Spend all season bitching about our WR's, and then gush over FA's that really don't solve our problem.

Better than bad does not equal good.

Either sign/trade for an alpha or draft the best you can in R1.

Otherwise, a lot of the suggestions in this thread are half measures - which is why we're in this spot to begin with.

It's easy to say "sign/trade for an alpha" or draft the best you can in R1.

Which Alpha are you signing? Mike Evans is the only one I think will actually make it to FA. Higgins is going to get re-signed or tagged or tagged and traded to somone not the Chiefs. Same with Pittman.

Is Ridley an alpha?

Who are you anticipating being available via trade? That's a tough thing to count on.

Who is an alpha in the draft? Harrison is, but KC isn't getting in position to take him. You pay the same type of price to get Malik Nabers or Rome Odunze as the Chiefs did to get Mahomes?

There's not an EASY answer, and KC has to be careful to not get DESPERATE to try and create an easy answer.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Odunze would be the perfect fit but that ain't happening so we're probably looking at Troy Franklin.

Marquise Brown in FA and Troy Franklin in rd 1 is probably a significant improvement at WR compared to this year. I’d like another shot taken at the position later in the draft as well.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

It's easy to say "sign/trade for an alpha" or draft the best you can in R1.

Which Alpha are you signing? Mike Evans is the only one I think will actually make it to FA. Higgins is going to get re-signed or tagged or tagged and traded to somone not the Chiefs. Same with Pittman.

Is Ridley an alpha?

Who are you anticipating being available via trade? That's a tough thing to count on.

Who is an alpha in the draft? Harrison is, but KC isn't getting in position to take him. You pay the same type of price to get Malik Nabers or Rome Odunze as the Chiefs did to get Mahomes?

There's not an EASY answer, and KC has to be careful to not get DESPERATE to try and create an easy answer.

Well, we saw this year that they're probably gonna have to get aggressive and create an answer or their QB is gonna have a mental breakdown.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

I think with a couple bold moves the Chiefs have a very real chance to get back to 2018 caliber Chiefs offense, immediately. I understand Tyreek was a unicorn and is irreplaceable. Hear me out though.

Rashee Rice is leading the entire NFL as a rookie in YAC. Next year, he will be a BETTER, much cheaper version of catch and physical run Sammy Watkins.

Whoa, pump the brakes a tad. Sammy was a legit 1, probably at a minimum a top-15 to -20 NFL WR for a short period of time when he was healthy in BUF, that could consistently play zone and beat man coverage.

Rice is progressing very well, but he ain't that, not yet. He has to continue to develop his releases and his breaks at the top of his routes, and probably a couple other things, before he's in (what was) Sammy's league.


And Sammy was more twitchy with the ball in his hands, imo, but that's another matter.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well, we saw this year that they're probably gonna have to get aggressive and create an answer or their QB is gonna have a mental breakdown.

The fanbase already is - christ people are advocating for guys like Hollywood Brown and Mooney, who haven't done shit in like 3 years.

OOOOH "insert WR here" had a 1k season once! Go get him Bert Varch!

Duncan is right - WE don't know who is going to be available on the FA or trade market - but it's Veach's job to have a pretty good idea and plan accordingly.

Every year there are surprising cap casualties as well. If they *want* to go get a true WR1, they will.

My concern is that they're going to go the spare parts route again, and we're right back here talking about how we're overpaying another bottom of the group WR like MVS.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

The fanbase already is - christ people are advocating for guys like Hollywood Brown and Mooney, who haven't done shit in like 3 years.

OOOOH "insert WR here" had a 1k season once! Go get him Bert Varch!

Duncan is right - WE don't know who is going to be available on the FA or trade market - but it's Veach's job to have a pretty good idea and plan accordingly.

Every year there are surprising cap casualties as well. If they *want* to go get a true WR1, they will.

My concern is that they're going to go the spare parts route again, and we're right back here talking about how we're overpaying another bottom of the group WR like MVS.

Well....we're kinda back to the "maybe we shouldn't have traded the HOF all time great WR" but that ship is sailed. They probably will go with the draft and mid tier signing route and try to develop them.

It's probably not the worst idea, but as we have seen this year, shit can go off the rails and when you go that way, you don't have much to lay back on.

The crazy thing is, they really had Hopkins basically fall in their lap and didn't do that. I'd like to get why they didn't atleast dip more toes in that water.

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by tredadda

I don’t think teams that want Penix or Nix will have issues waiting until RD 2 to get them. They could easily trade up early in the second to nab them vs giving up more to get them in KC’s round 1 spot. I do agree that they need a vet WR if for nothing else but to be reliable and stabilize the WR room. That room has a severe lack of veteran leadership right now.

If Penix plays against Mich like he played against Texas, i think he'll be a 1st rnder. Great pocket poise, decent mobility, good accuracy, especially long ball. Like usual, the Pro Days will be the final factor, but every GM realizes you have to have a QB to win these days, and if someone drafts Mitch Trubisky at 2, surely they won't let Penix get to the 2nd.

[OnTheWarpath15]

They need to draft and develop regardless of the plan in FA/Trade.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by tredadda

No chance. Drops are one thing, but with him he is not only dropping passes, but he does not appear to care anymore which for me is far worse.

I don't want MVS back, never was a big fan for the fit. Just saying dont just go get part II because he knows the offense.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Woogieman

This is a deep WR class, but from what I saw, there are only a few #1s, but lots of guys that would be great as secondary weapons. Sign Evans, trade down a few spots for a few more picks to a team that wants Nix or Penix, get the best guy in the low 30s (Thomas, AD Mitchell ?), maybe even later with a traded-for spot, and sign a lesser knopwn FA or even trade a 2025 pick for a reliable guy. Anything less than 3 new faces will still likely be too thin a corps.

3+ new WRs is overboard I think. They don’t need a complete overhaul, and you need a little continuity.

I think one good free agent/trade and a 1st or 2nd round pick will be plenty good enough, as long as they don’t draft another Moore.

FA/trade
Rice
Draft pick
Watson
James
Toney

If Toney performs and stays healthy, that’s just a bonus.

I have a bad feeling they’re going to keep Moore though.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

The fanbase already is - christ people are advocating for guys like Hollywood Brown and Mooney, who haven't done shit in like 3 years.

OOOOH "insert WR here" had a 1k season once! Go get him Bert Varch!

Duncan is right - WE don't know who is going to be available on the FA or trade market - but it's Veach's job to have a pretty good idea and plan accordingly.

Every year there are surprising cap casualties as well. If they *want* to go get a true WR1, they will.

My concern is that they're going to go the spare parts route again, and we're right back here talking about how we're overpaying another bottom of the group WR like MVS.

This is a bit of a mixture thing, right now just having competent WR's that know how to lineup and win a route would improve the team dramatically.

I don't think some people understand just how unfunctional the Chiefs passing game is for an NFL passing game at the moment.