Believe what your eyes tell you, not what your heart feels.

[scho63]

Nearly all of us and at a minimum a vast majority has seen this team in the Cassel, Smith and Mahomes era.

Another big chunk have watched the Montana, Green, Gannon, Grbac periods.

And the old farts like me have had to endure Mike Livingston, Mark Vlasic, Steve Pelluer, Bill Kenney and Steve DeBerg.

We ALL know the difference between a really bad team, an average team, an over achiever, an under achiever, a good and great team.

At this point, if you don't realize that this 2023 Chiefs team is average at best and trending down, you need to remove your homer goggles.

I love our team and have spent 53 years rooting for them when it was hard as hell to do and I didn't have other fans to console me after all the loses. I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew.

Mahomes and the Super Bowl delivered incredible joy and pride.

Now after 2 Super Bowls and non-stop winning we have hit an off year. It's easy to do in the NFL and we lasted longer than most teams do winning all the time.

Many of you see it but have remained overly optimistic. God Bless your devotion. I did that already for 50 years and now I can be much more realistic after the SB wins.

Do yourself a favor and be honest with yourself. You see it, you feel it and you know it.

This team has no chance in the playoffs. Don't try to tell me anything can happen, because it really doesn't. Yeah, a neat play here or there or maybe a win against a shit team but even now that is unlikely.

This team is burnt out. Since Game 1 not a ****ing thing has improved and in some cases has gotten worse: Mahomes and Kelce in particular.

When your top two stars are ****ing up and look like they need a month off to rest, you know you are in trouble.

I pray everyone stays healthy, we shut this shit show of a season down, rest our franchise QB before he gets injured or killed. The dude was running for his LIFE all day and our Oline has also gone backwards.

We have a great young defense, can focus on Oline and WRs for draft and signing FAs to rebound in 2024.

From play calling, to turnovers to penalties to oline blocking to drops, this has been a brutally ugly season.

Time to turn the page on 2023 and get our shit fixed ASAP cause it ain't gonna change in 2023.

[Chiefshrink]

I do believe what my eyes tell me, Butker kicked 6 FGs!

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

My eyes tell me that Mahomes is a bit off, but my head tells me that this team can win a Super Bowl if he gets back into form. I'll never doubt what he can do, so there is always going to be hope. Especially in a playoff series. The best QBs win more often than not in the playoffs and we have the best.

Hmmm, maybe we should believe what our heads and hearts tell us. Playoff Mahomes is a different beast.

[kcbubb]

Fun to look at this now. Some here underestimate this coaching staff. Spags is great and Andy is unbelievable. And we have Mahomes.

[scho63]

No doubt we overcame mistakes and when a guy like MVS has two great catches, anything is possible.

I am pleasantly surprised.

[scho63]

I'm very glad to be wrong on this!

I'm pleasantly shocked and surprised.

No one doubts Mahomes, we doubt people like Hardman and the dude tried to lose the game for us.

MVS got redemption and good for him and the Chiefs.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by scho63

I'm very glad to be wrong on this!

I'm pleasantly shocked and surprised.

No one doubts Mahomes, we doubt people like Hardman and the dude tried to lose the game for us.

MVS got redemption and good for him and the Chiefs.

High five!


Nothing better than being incorrect about something that helps the team.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Best22

This team is hung over from the Super Bowl

“Been there, done that”

They don’t have the fire

They were pissed off at the end of 2021 and further motivated by naysayers after we traded away Tyreek Hill. Led to a 17-3 season and Super Bowl win. They overachieved and played great team football and Mahomes was clearly the best player in football

In 2023, the fire isn’t there, guys were more satisfied. Mahomes is off his game, the play calling is worse, the receivers regressed, the discipline is worse

Maybe going one and done will light the fire under everyone’s ass again like the 2021 season did

lol

[Eleazar]

We played a pretty clean game last night. If Hardman doesn't fumble we probably win by 10.

The potential is there every Sunday, if we can just get out of our own way.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless

lol

Herp will derp.

Playoff Mahomes is a real thing...

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

2023's version of "won't sniff the playoffs"

Thank you scho63. Your reverse mojo is very much appreciated.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Some people never learn…

“I’m being the rational fan.”

No, you weren’t.

[RunKC]

Thats funny because this is what my eyes saw and ears heard last night from 15 in Buffalo

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Best22

This team is hung over from the Super Bowl

“Been there, done that”

They don’t have the fire

They were pissed off at the end of 2021 and further motivated by naysayers after we traded away Tyreek Hill. Led to a 17-3 season and Super Bowl win. They overachieved and played great team football and Mahomes was clearly the best player in football

In 2023, the fire isn’t there, guys were more satisfied. Mahomes is off his game, the play calling is worse, the receivers regressed, the discipline is worse

Maybe going one and done will light the fire under everyone’s ass again like the 2021 season did

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[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by TEX

Win it all? This team is 1 and done. But that should in no way take anything away from past accomplishments. But they certainly need to make major changes in the offseason.

Originally Posted by Stryker

I absolutely agree with the OP. I could see the writing on the wall several weeks back when we lost to Denver then the Eagles and finally with the Packers. Today was a 1000% what the OP is saying. We have been very spoiled with success, now we are spoiled with dropped passes, stupid mistakes and penalties. This season is done. Revamp in the off season and draft. We will right this ship but it won't be in 2023. Chin up and move forward.

Originally Posted by scho63

What about the drops? Is Mahomes gonna throw to himself?
Penalties constantly that kill our drives or save the other team on 3rd and long. Both happened AGAIN today.
Kelce has been dog shit since getting Swift pussy.
Our Oline is horrific.
Turnovers
****ing play calling is so predictable teams seems to be in our huddle listening to the play.
Mistakes

They just don't all suddenly fix themselves in week 16.

I appreciate your answer and optimism but don't be shocked at how this season ends.

Oh hey, I'm NOT shocked.

Just think, a few weeks ago TEX was following me around like a giddy school girl gloating about "being right" all along... oh ****, he blew his load early again.

I guess it's too much to ask 6 years into this to maybe not do things like call it a season weeks before the it ends and then prance around like you're the genius in the room when something like Christmas Day happens.

Perhaps stay in the moment a bit and call it what it was... a seriously shitty game, and not the end of the season.

I know it would be too much to ask to listen to those who figured it out back in 2019 or sooner when we say it'll be fine and to just wait to see what happens. Despite Christmas, the signs were there... they were always going to narrow down their receiver group, Mahomes was always going to flip the switch, they would always pull some tricks out.

None of that is hindsighting... hell, they've still had drops and dumb mistakes, with MVS' two catches being the one big surprise. I called it weeks ago... defense stays healthy, Mahomes gets some mojo.

Everything was expected, of course with the "if" of how much could they clean up with smaller margins for error.

And to be clear, there was absolutely nothing wrong with doubts after that shitshow in Christmas Day, this is about calling it a season and the effort in threads like this telling people to give up all hope.

And don't come at me that I'm the petty one here and "we should all be celebrating, not fighting"... don't deflect. We read your bullshit threads, I had TEX stalking me for a week. You made this place more miserable than it needed to be, even when it had every right to be miserable.

So yeah, you can take some shit for this in return. Just own it and maybe not be so weak next year (jk, looking forward to your meltdowns next season).

Cheers.

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yeah, I know we're all exhausted from the multitude of issues and any "if they just..." seems tired at this point, but it's not like everything has to come together perfect or even close to it.

Defense - show up and stay healthy.
Mahomes - get your mojo back.

Boom, they're now in any game they play and we can all forget yesterday ever happened. (also not saying they'll win a SB dropping key passes and taking dumb penalties and giving edge rushers zero resistance, etc.)

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[scho63]

Me and Pete share best reverse mojo threads in CP history.

No shame in being wrong and stunned.

I think I am most impressed with fixing penalties.