Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Obviously this game isn’t the Super Bowl, but it sure does feel like it’s for the Lombardi.

Don’t think there’s a chance in hell either NFC can beat Baltimore given what we saw this year between those teams.

I’d give them an outside chance against KC, but in a big spot like that, you know the Chiefs coming off the biggest road win in franchise history arguably would be so tough to defeat.

This defense isn't losing to Purdy or Goff.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I haven’t thought about it a ton because well, we won, but man was Allen on a heater last night.

I’m mind blown that he performed that well. Seems to always bring his best against us anymore and damn it makes the game stressful.

Lamar will have a hard time replicating that degree of difficulty for the KC defense.

Allen looked that way because they completely nerfed him, that coaching staff was scared he would **** up and turn the ball over causing a loss.

He completed 16 balls behind the LOS, a playoff record. They literally ran the ball and turned him into charlie checkdown.

It says a lot when a coaching staff in their biggest game says to their best player "we really need you to not be you"

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Allen looked that way because they completely nerfed him, that coaching staff was scared he would **** up and turn the ball over causing a loss.

He completed 16 balls behind the LOS, a playoff record. They literally ran the ball and turned him into charlie checkdown.

It says a lot when a coaching staff in their biggest game says to their best player "we really need you to not be you"

yea and it makes the “oh boo hoo the bills let josh down again” narrative all the more annoying

if lamar had under 200 yards on 40 passes the media would be going to TOWN on him. but joshi poo? oh no his bad bad receivers dropped balls

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This defense isn't losing to Purdy or Goff.

The Super Bowl is gonna be NE/LAR in 2018 for the Chiefs or Ravens. Both defenses wil kill Purdy or Goff

[smithandrew051]

I kinda feel like a Buccaneers vs Packers NFCCG is coming for us vs the Ravens.

Packers were really rolling by the end of that 2020-2021 season. Had the 1 seed. Won impressively against the Rams in the divisional round while Tampa won a close one against the Saints on the road.

Then they ran into Brady and an elite defense, just as the Buccaneers were starting to figure it out. Buccaneers jumped out early and the Packers came back, but couldn’t get over the hump and it was over.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I kinda feel like a Buccaneers vs Packers NFCCG is coming for us vs the Ravens.

Packers were really rolling by the end of that 2020-2021 season. Had the 1 seed. Won impressively against the Rams in the divisional round while Tampa won a close one against the Saints on the road.

Then they ran into Brady and an elite defense, just as the Buccaneers were starting to figure it out. Buccaneers jumped out early and the Packers came back, but couldn’t get over the hump and it was over.

There was a national analyst\talk show person who mentioned that the Chiefs are alot like that 2020 Bucs team a few weeks ago. Thought that was interesting.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

There was a national analyst\talk show person who mentioned that the Chiefs are alot like that 2020 Bucs team a few weeks ago. Thought that was interesting.

We don’t have the multitude of offensive weapons that they did, but Mahomes is better than that version of Brady was.

Mahomes also doesn’t have to beat Rodgers and Mahomes. He has to beat Lamar and Purdy/Goff.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all.

I’ve wondered a lot if the Ravens peaked too early. It’s hard to maintain that success for this long.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

There was a national analyst\talk show person who mentioned that the Chiefs are alot like that 2020 Bucs team a few weeks ago. Thought that was interesting.

Cowherd

[duncan_idaho]

I don't think you can read much -good or bad- into how the Chiefs' D defended Allen in the run game, as it relates to Lamar Jackson. They're just so different.

Both incredibly dangerous. With both, you have to have guys in the right place to make the play. With Allen, making the play involves actually bringing him down, and he's so big (and they're so willing to push a pile he's in the middle of), that even stopping him could still mean another 2-5 yards of "push" yards. With Jackson, it's more about not letting him make a move and get past you. He's not going to take on contact and drive you for a few extra, cheap yards, and their OL isn't going to come in and push/drive a pile with him in the middle. Not like Buffalo.

Allen also has so much arm strength and such crazy accuracy that he can do what he did for the TD to Shakir (which was a crazy throw/play the likes of which only a few can make... to escape, get to their non-throwing side, and then deliver that ball with that accuracy and that zip... you're basically talking Allen, Mahomes, Stafford, maybe Stroud, Herbert). Jackson just isn't going to make that type of throw (where you get everything you want on D and it still doesn't work).

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Cowherd

Oh ****. Well, never mind.

Disregard my above posts.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I don't think you can read much -good or bad- into how the Chiefs' D defended Allen in the run game, as it relates to Lamar Jackson. They're just so different.

Both incredibly dangerous. With both, you have to have guys in the right place to make the play. With Allen, making the play involves actually bringing him down, and he's so big (and they're so willing to push a pile he's in the middle of), that even stopping him could still mean another 2-5 yards of "push" yards. With Jackson, it's more about not letting him make a move and get past you. He's not going to take on contact and drive you for a few extra, cheap yards, and their OL isn't going to come in and push/drive a pile with him in the middle. Not like Buffalo.

Allen also has so much arm strength and such crazy accuracy that he can do what he did for the TD to Shakir (which was a crazy throw/play the likes of which only a few can make... to escape, get to their non-throwing side, and then deliver that ball with that accuracy and that zip... you're basically talking Allen, Mahomes, Stafford, maybe Stroud, Herbert). Jackson just isn't going to make that type of throw (where you get everything you want on D and it still doesn't work).

Great summary

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

We don’t have the multitude of offensive weapons that they did, but Mahomes is better than that version of Brady was.

Mahomes also doesn’t have to beat Rodgers and Mahomes. He has to beat Lamar and Purdy/Goff.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all.

I’ve wondered a lot if the Ravens peaked too early. It’s hard to maintain that success for this long.

Agreed. I think your comparison could be right.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Cowherd

Could have been but I don't really remember to be honest. It is interesting comparison along with what smithandrew posted.

[mililo4cpa]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

**** that, now that we are here let's go win it.

if you're going to be a bear, might as well be a grizzly bear

[dirk digler]

#Chiefs HC Andy Reid has no new injury updates. Says the team got back late last night.

— Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) January 22, 2024

#Chiefs HC Andy Reid: "This coming week will be the biggest test of them all."

— Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) January 22, 2024

#Chiefs HC Andy Reid on differences between defending Josh Allen/Lamar Jackson as runners: "You have to stay to your lanes, you have to stay disciplined. Lamar is special. He's one of the fastest guys on the field. Lamar is shifty. Josh will go right through you, he doesn't care.…

— Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) January 22, 2024

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Baltimore and Chiefs haters are gonna twist and contort a lot of arguments, use a lot of regular season statistics, that’s all fine and well, do you

But you should know better by now. Mahomes is 1 of 1. The stats go out the window come playoffs. You are dealing with the best, most clutch player to ever wear cleats. Can you win? Sure. Does ANYTHING you’ve done up to this point matter? Nah.

Like it or not, the Regular season is our preseason. Not excited about that, but that seems to be the way the team played this year. Lack of focus, boredom...

It's playoff time now. Baltimore is a very good team, but you can't compare regular season Chiefs to playoff Chiefs. Vegas knows this, thus the line. We should be underdogs, but you can never count us out. If we lose, we lose, but if it's close, the pressure is going to be through the roof for the Ravens. If Lamar handles it and beats us, hats off. However, that is yet to be seen.