Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[JPH83]

Trey Smith, Creed and Thuney/Allegretti were outstanding against Buffalo, probably the best they've all played. I think that's where it's won and lost. If they have a similar game and stifle Madubuike, Pierce and Jones I think we win. Even if our WRs turn back into pumpkins and the OTs bleed penalties and our DL is run all over etc etc. If we can run on them a bit and if Mahomes has time to extend, I fancy our chances. If not, it's a long day.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by JPH83

Trey Smith, Creed and Thuney/Allegretti were outstanding against Buffalo, probably the best they've all played. I think that's where it's won and lost. If they have a similar game and stifle Madubuike, Pierce and Jones I think we win. Even if our WRs turn back into pumpkins and the OTs bleed penalties and our DL is run all over etc etc. If we can run on them a bit and if Mahomes has time to extend, I fancy our chances. If not, it's a long day.

Agree that this is probably the single most important matchup in the game: Chiefs' IOL v. Ravens' DTs.

The Eagles got a lot of shine for their interior d-line, but the Ravens' is the best in the league. And they constructed it in large part because they knew they would need to go through the Chiefs and the best way to disrupt Mahomes is to be able to get pressure without sending blitz packages. The Ravens don't pick early enough to get dominant edges to generate pressure with four, so they instead built from the inside out and are absolutely massive on the interior.

The Ravens' gameplan will rely on Madubuike/Pierce/Jones collapsing the pocket and flushing Mahomes out of the pocket and having to make the decision to either make tough throws into a crowded/talelented secondary or else try to scramble on the best ILB duo in the NFL in Smith/Queen. But if the interior d-line can't get pressure and the Ravens can't get pressure, the blitz is as good as a death sentence against Mahomes.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

QB-KC
OL- BAL (Thuney injury is the difference for me.)
RB-KC
WR- BAL (Although Rice is the best WR on the field.)
TE-KC
DL- Tie (BAL has more more overall quality but they don't have anyone all that close to Chris Jones.)
S-BAL
LB-BAL
CB-KC
Kicker-Tie (These two are the best in the league.)

I know BAL is a very popular pick but these two teams look pretty dead even to me. I'll go with the better QB.

CHIEFS 26
BAL 23
OT Thriller

[UChieffyBugger]

So the question is which is the better team we've faced? The Eagles team we saw in the superbowl or this Ravens?

Qb= Hurts and Lamar are literally the same imo. Both can kill you running and can have good days throwing but usually that's not their strength.

Ol= Eagles easily

WR= Eagles had AJ and Smith so imo that's easily Eagles again

TE= tough one. Andrews and Dallas are the same but Likely perhaps gives Bal the edge

RB= Sanders, Scott, Gainwell etc were better imo so Eagles

DL= Eagles easily and their sack record proved it

LB= Bal easily here no debate

Secondary= both teams have good individual talent so it's possibly a tie here imo.

Coaching= may be a tie too considering the Eagles guys are now head coaches. Though granted Harbough has win a ring but he doesn't call plays.

Eagles also had the tush push which Bal doesn't do. So who's the better roster? Imo I'd say the Eagles were probably the better team and had the same number one seed, had a top defense and a QB playing at an MVP level. They had a feared run game with two number one receivers that HAD to be respected.

So we've been here before on an even bigger stage just a year ago ya'll. And I think that experience against the Eagles will be huge for us going into Sunday.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

So we've been here before on an even bigger stage just a year ago ya'll. And I think that experience against the Eagles will be huge for us going into Sunday.

The Chiefs are walking into the bar with legit BD energy. They know they've got the most impressive D in the room. They've got that confidence in their back pocket because they've been there and done that.

The question is weather or not bmore is ready. How do they handle the pressure? Can they make the big plays in the big game? Can they drive the field for the go ahead score in the last minute?
Can they do what no one has in the playoffs and stop Mahomes?

I ****ing doubt it...

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

If the Chiefs can win this game, then I think you could argue it's Mahomes' greatest win.

No.

Not even close.

More like greatest win for the Ravens this season.

[Johnny8]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

The Chiefs defense has yet to give up 30 points in a game all season and all of the sudden Lamar "I can run better than I throw" Jackson will break that spell?

Yes.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by stevieray

No.

Not even close.

More like greatest win for the Ravens this season.

There’s a very colorable argument that this is the best team Mahomes has ever faced. And it’s on the road in the AFC title game. But hey, if it makes you feel better to act like that’s “not even close” to the biggest obstacle he has had short of an actual Super Bowl, then knock yourself out; I’m sure Patrick Mahomes himself isn’t big timing the Ravens.

[Whogotitbetter]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

So the question is which is the better team we've faced? The Eagles team we saw in the superbowl or this Ravens?

Qb= Hurts and Lamar are literally the same imo. Both can kill you running and can have good days throwing but usually that's not their strength.

Ol= Eagles easily

WR= Eagles had AJ and Smith so imo that's easily Eagles again

TE= tough one. Andrews and Dallas are the same but Likely perhaps gives Bal the edge

RB= Sanders, Scott, Gainwell etc were better imo so Eagles

DL= Eagles easily and their sack record proved it

LB= Bal easily here no debate

Secondary= both teams have good individual talent so it's possibly a tie here imo.

Coaching= may be a tie too considering the Eagles guys are now head coaches. Though granted Harbough has win a ring but he doesn't call plays.

Eagles also had the tush push which Bal doesn't do. So who's the better roster? Imo I'd say the Eagles were probably the better team and had the same number one seed, had a top defense and a QB playing at an MVP level. They had a feared run game with two number one receivers that HAD to be respected.

So we've been here before on an even bigger stage just a year ago ya'll. And I think that experience against the Eagles will be huge for us going into Sunday.

Did you guys watch lamar film or clips? he's nowhere like hurts, hurts is more like allen, lamar is a qb who can outrun tackle angles and shifty, then he has passing angles like stafford and mahomes, This makes him much harder to defend this season then any other qb he can beat you throwing, running, and with his mind, the texans d-line are a more disciplined group then the chiefs yet he still ran for over 100.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

So the question is which is the better team we've faced? The Eagles team we saw in the superbowl or this Ravens?

Qb= Hurts and Lamar are literally the same imo. Both can kill you running and can have good days throwing but usually that's not their strength.

Ol= Eagles easily

WR= Eagles had AJ and Smith so imo that's easily Eagles again

TE= tough one. Andrews and Dallas are the same but Likely perhaps gives Bal the edge

RB= Sanders, Scott, Gainwell etc were better imo so Eagles

DL= Eagles easily and their sack record proved it

LB= Bal easily here no debate

Secondary= both teams have good individual talent so it's possibly a tie here imo.

Coaching= may be a tie too considering the Eagles guys are now head coaches. Though granted Harbough has win a ring but he doesn't call plays.

Eagles also had the tush push which Bal doesn't do. So who's the better roster? Imo I'd say the Eagles were probably the better team and had the same number one seed, had a top defense and a QB playing at an MVP level. They had a feared run game with two number one receivers that HAD to be respected.

So we've been here before on an even bigger stage just a year ago ya'll. And I think that experience against the Eagles will be huge for us going into Sunday.

Disagree all over the place here to the point that I’m not even sure why I’m answering, but why not.

Coaching is a tie? Harbaugh is a hall of famer and Sirianni was almost fired this year. Macdonald has a head coaching job whenever he wants it, and Monken is coming off of back-to-back championships at Georgia as the OC.

Secondary is a tie? The Ravens have one of the lowest passing YPAs in decades this year.

Hurts and Lamar are the same? I mean this is just offensive at this point. One is the 2x MVP (as many as Mahomes in fewer seasons) and the other has had one good season.

The Eagles got a bunch of hype in the media, but they weren’t a historic team by DVOA. They came out of a weak NFC and then regressed badly this year. The Ravens are far better.

[Johnny8]

Originally Posted by Whogotitbetter

Did you guys watch lamar film or clips? he's nowhere like hurts, hurts is more like allen, lamar is a qb who can outrun tackle angles and shifty, then he has passing angles like stafford and mahomes, This makes him much harder to defend this season then any other qb he can beat you throwing, running, and with his mind, the texans d-line are a more disciplined group then the chiefs yet he still ran for over 100.

Wait, why watch clips? They're both young black QBs they're the same!

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Absolutely agree with this. The Mahomes/Reid combination is transcendent to the point that the supporting cast is almost beside the point. And unfortunately for everyone else, the Chiefs still have a good supporting cast.

One thing I'll say though is that the last iteration of this brilliance was Brady/Belichick. And the Ravens were Patriots killers. We gave them their best game by far during their undefeated season in 2007. We destroyed them in Foxborough in the 2010 playoffs. Outplayed them and dropped the winning touchdown in the 2011 AFCCG in Foxborough; crushed them in the 2012 AFCCG in Foxborough. Lost but were up on them by 14 in the second half in Foxborough in the 2014 playoffs. And crushed them for their first loss in the 2019 season when they came into Baltimore at 8-0.

Lots of reasons for Ravens fans to be confident. But maybe even more for Chiefs fans to be.

That’s great and all but, WTF does it have to do with the Chiefs? Baltimore has faced KC four times already in the Mahomes era and are only 1-3 against them. What the Ravens used to do to a completely different franchise is irrelevant.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by Johnny8

Wait, why watch clips? They're both young black QBs they're the same!

Come on. You’re on another fanbase’s message board. This type of comment is never going to go well. I’m trying to engage in good faith dialogue and still had someone wake up and downvote literally every post I made. Coming onto their board and trying to turn the conversation into what you’re doing here is going to kill the chance of any cross talk for everyone else.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Whogotitbetter

Did you guys watch lamar film or clips? he's nowhere like hurts, hurts is more like allen, lamar is a qb who can outrun tackle angles and shifty, then he has passing angles like stafford and mahomes, This makes him much harder to defend this season then any other qb he can beat you throwing, running, and with his mind, the texans d-line are a more disciplined group then the chiefs yet he still ran for over 100.

Lol the fact that you tried to compare Hurts to Allen and our DL to the texans tells me all I need to know about your football knowledge. Please stop it

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Johnny8

Wait, why watch clips? They're both young black QBs they're the same!

Young? Lamar is 27 is that still "young"?