Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

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Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[KCUnited]

Starting think Lamar's wonderlic score is on the high end around Balitmore

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by penguinz

If this were true he could have just as easily chose to throw to the underneath routes vs trying to force it down the field.

Why make up shit to make attempt to make him look smarter than his OC?

I mean that IS typically the first line on Jackson's scouting report.

"Brilliant player; true student of the game. Understands how to read defenses forward and backwards. Future coach in the making..."

That's what everyone says about him. All the time.

So yeah - he's obviously telling his coaches how to call the game.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

Well he wasn't try8ng to process he was trying to get the ball deep. They plays that were being called were longer developing plays without a built in hot. At halftime the guy that can't read a defense woth slow processing went to the QB coach and told him he need more short to intermediate throws. He came out the 2nd half read tje defense perfectly and carved the Texans up just as he has done to every other team this season that's tried to blitz him.

Also you guys want to put the last loss to the Ravens on CEH, go back and watch the tape. Lamar punished Spags for blitzing him. I know I know it wasn't Spags blitzing it was Sorenson, Nieman, amd the likes.

If Jackson is such an advanced processor in command of the offense, why isn't he adjusting to that on the fly? Checking to a different play? Telling a receiver to run a hot? Or after a drive? Why is that a halftime conversation? If you want to use an example of how in control he is, I don't that is the example you're looking for.

And, I don't think this thread in general is saying Lamar is dumb and that's his downfall, or that he's dumb and therefore can't handle the blitz. Maybe some early on or in one of the other threads on this board, but the topic recently has MOSTLY been about him being a dynamic playmaker you have to try to get to play within a few confines.

Finally, regarding blitzing. When talking about Jackson's ability to handle the blitz, referencing what he did two years ago in one game is meaningless to both sides of the discussion.

[Pinchshot]

Schefter just said Thuney unlikely to play.

[Whogotitbetter]

Lamar is better then allen, he may not have a stronger arm then allen, but his throwing angles make up for it

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If Jackson is such an advanced processor in command of the offense, why isn't he adjusting to that on the fly? Checking to a different play? Telling a receiver to run a hot? Or after a drive? Why is that a halftime conversation? If you want to use an example of how in control he is, I don't that is the example you're looking for.

And, I don't think this thread in general is saying Lamar is dumb and that's his downfall, or that he's dumb and therefore can't handle the blitz. Maybe some early on or in one of the other threads on this board, but the topic recently has MOSTLY been about him being a dynamic playmaker you have to try to get to play within a few confines.

Finally, regarding blitzing. When talking about Jackson's ability to handle the blitz, referencing what he did two years ago in one game is meaningless to both sides of the discussion.

Lamar is dumb. Super dumb. Jamaal Charles Dumb.

AND he's a dynamic playmaker.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Sure, blame us because you're too stupid to understand the difference. Several posters explained that there is a big difference. Duncan had the best post. Perhaps you could go read his post again and try to understand this time.

Yeah, once you get to the point of explaining the difference between "blaming" the Ravens for playing a shitty team last week and whether we should use it as any kind of barometer for this week..... it's either trolling or room temp IQ.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

He just posted the most recent numbers however Lamar has been beating the blitz all year. The 1st half the Ravens were trying to take advantage of the Texans weak secondary and go deep, at halftime the guy with the low wonderlic score, you know the one that can't read defenses? Thay guy thats about to win his 2nd MVP went to the QB coach and told him that they had to go to the short to intermediate game to beat the blitz and wouldn't you know they scored 24 points in the 2nd half.

I'm fairly certain that IowaHawkeyeChief knows that Lamar can read defense. He pretty much said as much when he said wonderlic smarts ain't football smarts (or something to that effect).


Geez, are all these Ravens fans going to be this dumb? if so, this is going to be very boring.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Oh.

So your offensive coaching staff needed {checks notes} Lamar Jackson to tell them what was going on out there?

That bodes well...

I'll try it once more. The gameplan going in was to test the Texans secondary because they have a weak secondary. They didn't expect Ryans to send, not just the kitchen sink, but the house on literally every single play ( they blitzed 75% of the time Saturday). They went into half and made adjustments just as they have done every single game this season. Lamar was apart of the adjustment conversation just as Mahomes is for the Chiefs. He said they couldn't continue to call long developing plays because they were sending more rushers then the had blockers. It wasn't that coaches didn't see I mean Steve Winder and Ray Charles saw it. My point is the stupid guy with the low wonderlic that can't read defenses knew just enough to know they needed to go to shorter passes and didn't need someone to hold his hand to figure it out.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by penguinz

If this were true he could have just as easily chose to throw to the underneath routes vs trying to force it down the field.

Why make up shit to make attempt to make him look smarter than his OC?

Because that darned oc was calling all streaks for everyone don't u know?

[Pinchshot]

Originally Posted by Whogotitbetter

Lamar is better then allen, he may not have a stronger arm then allen, but his throwing angles make up for it

Running back

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

I'll try it once more. The gameplan going in was to test the Texans secondary because they have a weak secondary. They didn't expect Ryans to send, not just the kitchen sink, but the house on literally every single play ( they blitzed 75% of the time Saturday). They went into half and made adjustments just as they have done every single game this season. Lamar was apart of the adjustment conversation just as Mahomes is for the Chiefs. He said they couldn't continue to call long developing plays because they were sending more rushers then the had blockers. It wasn't that coaches didn't see I mean Steve Winder and Ray Charles saw it. My point is the stupid guy with the low wonderlic that can't read defenses knew just enough to know they needed to go to shorter passes and didn't need someone to hold his hand to figure it out.

Your point seems to be that stupid guy (because man alive is he stupid) needed to hold his OC's hand to help HIM figure it out.

Think Andy Reid ever needed Jamaal Charles to tell him "Hey coach, they have 8 in the box - maybe do somethin' different..."?

I suspect not.

Nor did, I expect, your OC. But good for you on taking a different approach to the standard "Seriously guys, Lamar isn't stupid" thing. Saying he's smarter than his OC isn't one I've seen before. Points for novelty.

[seamonster]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Lamar is dumb. Super dumb. Jamaal Charles Dumb.

AND he's a dynamic playmaker.

Marino was dumb too. Sometimes it doesn't matter. And with Lamar I don't think it will unless they get down by > 2 scores... They're not asking him to be Peyton Manning. He's like Adrian Peterson as a QB. And their defense is good enough that I'd be surprised if that actually happened. It's going to be a close game and it's going to come down to who makes the mistake.

[ptlyon]

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[Lzen]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

I'll try it once more. The gameplan going in was to test the Texans secondary because they have a weak secondary. They didn't expect Ryans to send, not just the kitchen sink, but the house on literally every single play ( they blitzed 75% of the time Saturday). They went into half and made adjustments just as they have done every single game this season. Lamar was apart of the adjustment conversation just as Mahomes is for the Chiefs. He said they couldn't continue to call long developing plays because they were sending more rushers then the had blockers. It wasn't that coaches didn't see I mean Steve Winder and Ray Charles saw it. My point is the stupid guy with the low wonderlic that can't read defenses knew just enough to know they needed to go to shorter passes and didn't need someone to hold his hand to figure it out.

Lamar was just like Patrick saying "you think we got time to run WASP?"