Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

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Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

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If your favorite NFL football team ain't the KC Chiefs... You deserve to DIE!!!!!

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by DRM08

It was both. Apparently Mahomes & KC were supposed to lose on purpose in earlier years instead of winning enough games to gain home field advantage, just for the sake of satisfying the media people who thought Mahomes was not capable of playing well on the road. Lol

I don't recall hearing that. What I heard was Pat Mahomes has never played a road PO game. I think there was interest in seeing how that would look because they never had to play a playoff game away from Arrowhead. It's really hard to say a person can't do something that they never had to do. Maybe it was the MJ way of making their own motivation. After all he is your guys MJ.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

If Lamar can't beat Mahomes this year, when can he?

Sure, next few years the KC D might not be as elite, but the offense is likely to be better. Lamar is no longer on a rookie contract and that will bite at some point.

Given that Lamar's healthy skill position group right now is rookie Zay Flowers, old man OBJr., Isiah Likely, and Gus Edwards, I think it's plausible the answer to "when can he" is a later date with improved options. And it's not like the Ravens need a bunch of cap space to find them. Almost all of their best players are homegrown, and they've been the best drafting organization in the NFL for over two decades now.

Also, Kelce and Reid aren't going to be around forever. I think the Chiefs will be contenders for every minute that Patrick Mahomes is around, but this isn't some once-in-a-lifetime window for the Ravens to capitalize on a stacked Ravens/barren Chiefs.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

I don't recall hearing that. What I heard was Pat Mahomes has never played a road PO game. I think there was interest in seeing how that would look because they never had to play a playoff game away from Arrowhead. It's really hard to say a person can't do something that they never had to do. Maybe it was the MJ way of making their own motivation. After all he is your guys MJ.

There was a Buffalo player Dion Dawkins who threw out a sarcastic "good luck" while bragging about Buffalo's home crowd as a massive advantage. The sarcastic "good luck" part of his comment came across like "you have no chance of winning."

I feel very confident Sean McDermott did not want his players speaking in that manner, but Dawkins kind of messed up. Josh Allen & Mitch Morse spoke in a much more coach-speak manner, showing respect to the opponent and excitement for the game without creating any kind of bulletin board material. This is the strategy all players and coaches should use in media interviews leading up to every game. Be as boring as possible, lol

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Hey dickbag, we steam rolled the Phins in the fourth coldest game ever played.

Then we were a Hardman fumble at the 1 from beating the Bills by 30+.

When you team wins a chip talk some shit like this but not until then

Hey Numbnuts we boat raced the Phins by 30 before their remaining LBs went to the infirmary.

Clearly remedial math was your preferred destination in school. But dang 1 fumble cost you 27 points? That's tough.

My team already has 2 Chips. Guess I can talk shit.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

You guys are the one with the 13-4 record and an incredibly stacked team. And Lamar's playoff record is 2-3.

So.... yes.

But you guys are the ones with God in Cleats, the greatest HC and playoff DC. Surely you guys can beat a perennial choker even in a down year. I mean that perennial choker did beat God in cleats, the greatest HC, and Playoff DC with a Rag Tag bunch of misfits. I forgot that doesn't count because it wasn't in the playoffs.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by DRM08

I dunno, Baltimore found a way to win games without him last year. Harbaugh does a great job and the GM does a great job. They have a great defense, which has nothing to do with the QB. They had a great defense 20 years ago, long before Lamar ever showed up. Harbaugh and the current GM have done a great job continuing the tradition of strong defense in Baltimore going back 2 decades. But then I think about this one...

The other day the TV guys had a stat about the Pittsburgh Steelers. 90% losing rate when TJ Watt misses games with injury. That's insane right there, especially for a defensive player to have that type of impact on a team's ability to win games. You go from a team with a solid record to losing 90% of your games from one pass rusher going down? That's wild.

Baltimore went 2-4 without Lamar last season. The year before they didn't win another game after Lamar went down.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

But you guys are the ones with God in Cleats, the greatest HC and playoff DC. Surely you guys can beat a perennial choker even in a down year. I mean that perennial choker did beat God in cleats, the greatest HC, and Playoff DC with a Rag Tag bunch of misfits. I forgot that doesn't count because it wasn't in the playoffs.

You saw Hardman's fumble on the goal line against Buffalo. That's exactly how KC has been losing games this season. So that's the biggest question. Which team can protect the ball? It's one of the most critical factors in every NFL game.

KC has specialized in hurting themselves with dumb mistakes like that Hardman fumble. Who knows if they can play super clean football against Baltimore. KC has an uphill battle, but they play the games for a reason and we have to see how it goes.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

There's a bit of a "Ewing effect" with Andrews being out in the sense that the offense has gotten better without him because Lamar has had to be more creative and not just default to his safety blanket.

But at the same time, having that safety blanket would now be useful. I thought that last week during the first half against the Texans. When they were blitzing like crazy, it would have been helpful to have Andrews out there for Lamar to have a reliable option to connect with while the gameplan was being adjusted.

Gronk tweeted something today about how a two-TE set with Andrews and Likely would be deadly. And Monken did have great success with that at Georgia. But I'm not sure we'll get to see that this year if Andrews is gimpy. The bigger benefit to me is that if and when Spagnuolo dials up a tailor-made gameplan, Andrews is there as an outlet when all else fails.

I don't agree woth that. In 2020 I dint think Lamar trusted anyone but Hollywood and Andrews. 2021 Hollywo9d leaves and Bateman get drafted and is immediately hurt. That left noone but Andrews. Same for 22. This season I do t think he forced the ball nearly as much to Andrews as

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

Hey Numbnuts we boat raced the Phins by 30 before their remaining LBs went to the infirmary.

Clearly remedial math was your preferred destination in school. But dang 1 fumble cost you 27 points? That's tough.

My team already has 2 Chips. Guess I can talk shit.

How did Cleveland beat your fraud team and rush for 178 yards rushing vs your allegedly top ranked defense?

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

Baltimore went 2-4 without Lamar last season. The year before they didn't win another game after Lamar went down.

Lamar is a pretty dang valuable guy, no doubt. He has special talent. QB's in general are the biggest impact guys. Colts went from a high level playoff team to #1 overall draft pick as soon as Peyton Manning went down. Texans went from #2 overall draft pick to suddenly winning a Playoff game with CJ Stroud.

But the stat about TJ Watt is pretty shocking. I'm not sure how a single defensive player can have so much impact that a team loses 90% of the time when he misses a game. That's insane, lol

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there's no ****ing way andrews is playing

look at that limp at the end of the vid

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[Chieftain]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

Because you said so?

Because everyone who watches football and can think with a rational mind says so. Are you suggesting Lamar is anywhere near the stratosphere of the QB talent that is Josh Allen? Because if you are suggesting that, you are a reeruned fanboy.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

So you have Bill Russell and his 11 championships as the GOAT over MJ?

I have MJ because he went 6 for 6 with 6 finals MVPs while never sniffing a game 7. Add that to the laundry list of HOF players who don't have rings because the happened to play the same time that Michael played.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Josh Allen has more than double the # of playoff wins as a starting QB compared to Lamar.

Shit, Baker Mayfield has more playoff wins than Lamar.

By your logic Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Lamar.