Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Browns/Ravens is a bit sad. Both NFL cities cucked by another city that took their football team. Cleveland wasn't totally emasculated and got to keep their team name. NFL made sure of that because they respected the passion of the Cleveland fanbase. Cleveland went 2 years w/o an NFL team. Baltimore languished 12 seasons w/o an NFL team. Weird to think that the Colts have now played in Indianapolis longer than they played in Baltimore.

Their fans aren’t even remotely close to being over it. There’s an active thread on their board right now with Browns fans talking about how the mere sight of the Ravens fills them with sadness (247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/board/105323/Contents/i-hate-the-ratbirds-225823758/?page=1).

Baltimore fans still held animosity toward the Colts at least through 2006 when the Ravens had the one seed and Manning came to Baltimore for the divisional round, but there’s no real hate left there.

For all the complaining the Browns fans do, which I get, they got to keep their colors/history. It’s frankly insulting to many Baltimore people that the Indy team hangs banner for Baltimore Colts achievements. I mentioned this early, but the Ravens have basically coopted the old Colts. There will
be old Colts at the game this Sunday, and they’re inducted in the Ravens Ring of Honor.

May that fate never befall the Chiefs.

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

There is no guarantee Mahomes plays to 45. This is football and injuries do happen. Not saying Mahomea is going to get injured or he isn't on the trajectory to being the GOAT, just saying if he wants that he needs to win a few more Lomabardis. This is in no way playing with House Money. Hell you guys said he's the Michael Jordan of football. In the six championships runs no one ever uttered the words playing with House Money. Anytime Michale stepped on the court in the playoffs the pressure was on because nothing mattered more than winning. When Mike was sick they weren't playing with House Money he was expected to win. When Scottie hurt his back he wasn't playing with House Money he was expected to win. When everyone had the Jazz beating the Bulls they weren't playing with House Money they were expected to win. Only on Planet Chiefs does the "GOAT" get to play with House Money.

Yep, there are no guarantees, but the comparison is between Mahomes and Brady. Brady's totals came from playing until he was 45. Mahomes is 28, so he has many years of potential yet to play out. Mahomes compares very favorably to Brady at the same point in his career. Whether or not Mahomes continues on the same trajectory will be interesting to see, but who else looks capable of doing so?

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Not a single GM in football would trade Mahomes for Lamar straight up. Not a single one, not even yours.

You guys sure do love making up preposterous hypotheticals that have no chance of ever occurring and aren’t even useful intellectual exercises because they’re so contrived/realistic to make yourselves feel better.

[Chris Meck]

What you Ravens fans don't understand is that we don't care about your team. At all. The Ravens are this year's obstacle between Mahomes and another ring. That's all. The Chiefs don't care who they play, it doesn't matter. If they don't do stupid shit they'll win.

There's no magic plan that's going make a difference for you. There's no matchup to exploit. There's no edge for you to ride to victory.

Now, KC has had a lot of mind numbingly stupid gaffes this season. Maybe they come out and can't catch the ball again, or fumble the game away. It could happen. I wouldn't bet on it.

Mahomes and the bulk of the team are battle hardened from six straight AFCCGs and three Super Bowls.

No, Lamar is not his equal. Nobody is.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Veach said Mahomes was the best player he's ever seen before he became the starter in 2018. He knew.

And no DeCosta hasn't been better at drafting than Veach the last 4 years, especially considering Veach hasn't had any picks higher than 21.

The Ravens are the best drafting organization since they came into the league in 96. Starting with their very first draft being first ballot hall of famers Ray Lewis and Jonathan Ogden. They’re an excellent drafting team now, but I’m talking about a much longer sample size than that.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

You guys sure do love making up preposterous hypotheticals that have no chance of ever occurring and aren’t even useful intellectual exercises because they’re so contrived/realistic to make yourselves feel better.

Lolz

I don't need to make myself feel better, winning Super Bowls feels GREAT.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

What you Ravens fans don't understand is that we don't care about your team. At all. The Ravens are this year's obstacle between Mahomes and another ring. That's all. The Chiefs don't care who they play, it doesn't matter. If they don't do stupid shit they'll win.

There's no magic plan that's going make a difference for you. There's no matchup to exploit. There's no edge for you to ride to victory.

Now, KC has had a lot of mind numbingly stupid gaffes this season. Maybe they come out and can't catch the ball again, or fumble the game away. It could happen. I wouldn't bet on it.

Mahomes and the bulk of the team are battle hardened from six straight AFCCGs and three Super Bowls.

No, Lamar is not his equal. Nobody is.

Let’s play your hypothetical game that you like. Say—and I know this is crazy—the Chiefs lose. Then what? It doesn’t matter and still no one is his equal and the Chiefs beat themselves?

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Veach said Mahomes was the best player he's ever seen before he became the starter in 2018. He knew.

And no DeCosta hasn't been better at drafting than Veach the last 4 years, especially considering Veach hasn't had any picks higher than 21.

And traded up to get that one.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Let’s play your hypothetical game that you like. Say—and I know this is crazy—the Chiefs lose. Then what? It doesn’t matter and still no one is his equal and the Chiefs beat themselves?

Correct

[Whogotitbetter]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Your d isn’t better than phili’s last year

They had better cbs, and d-line but ravens have better lb and safties. The eagles don't have the ravens dc he's too good.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

You guys sure do love making up preposterous hypotheticals that have no chance of ever occurring and aren’t even useful intellectual exercises because they’re so contrived/realistic to make yourselves feel better.

Your own arguments have already proven this largely true.

The Chiefs need a QB like Mahomes because the team isn’t "historically great"... and the outcome has been 2 SB wins and 6 consecutive AFCCGs.

The Ravens' "historically great" team doesn't need a QB like Mahomes, but also hasn't won anything at all.

If Lamar hasn't raised the Ravens' less-than-historically great teams to even come close to Mahomes success on relatively just-ok teams, what makes you think the Chiefs would want Lamar?

And if Lamar doesn't win a SB on this "historically great" team after Mahomes has won two on lessee teams, again, why would anyone pick Lamar over Mahomes?

These are your arguments, not ours.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Better roster, better coaching, AND better QB? Yeah I'm taking that team against the shit birds

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Their fans aren’t even remotely close to being over it. There’s an active thread on their board right now with Browns fans talking about how the mere sight of the Ravens fills them with sadness (247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/board/105323/Contents/i-hate-the-ratbirds-225823758/?page=1).

Baltimore fans still held animosity toward the Colts at least through 2006 when the Ravens had the one seed and Manning came to Baltimore for the divisional round, but there’s no real hate left there.

For all the complaining the Browns fans do, which I get, they got to keep their colors/history. It’s frankly insulting to many Baltimore people that the Indy team hangs banner for Baltimore Colts achievements. I mentioned this early, but the Ravens have basically coopted the old Colts. There will
be old Colts at the game this Sunday, and they’re inducted in the Ravens Ring of Honor.

May that fate never befall the Chiefs.

Baltimore & Houston both got screwed. Both of them should have been able to keep the name, colors, and history of the Colts & Oilers. Tennessee even rubbed it in the faces of everyone this year by wearing the Oiler throwback uniforms in a game against the Texans. Bud Adams was a d-bag and his children are not much better IMHO.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

to make yourselves feel better.

This is the main reason you're here.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Let’s play your hypothetical game that you like. Say—and I know this is crazy—the Chiefs lose. Then what? It doesn’t matter and still no one is his equal and the Chiefs beat themselves?

If the Chiefs lose, hey that obviously sucks, but we still have a very solid Defense and some young playmakers in Rashee Rice and Pacheco. As long as Veach continues doing what he's been doing the last 7 years, we'll probably be right in the thick of it next year.

After a couple of recent super bowls and post season success, a loss here and there doesn't hurt too bad. We'll be back.