Patrick Mahomes: Game Manager

[DJ's left nut]

So i re-watched the 2nd half last night just for grins.

And during the game I was just aggravated that we simply wouldn't push the ball. But on re-watch and after listening to the post-game, it's clear that this was Mahomes just going full Alex Smith out there.

He wasn't concerned anymore about scoring points. He (and Andy) were wholly content bleeding clock and leaning on their lead. He knew that if he just didn't make a mistake, the Ravens weren't going to come back and win it. So he took ZERO risks.

Contrast that with how he played on the first two drives. And hell, the throw he made on 3rd down when they had to have it. He HAD big plays. He HAD yards and probably points on the board. But he dialed that risk/reward calculus waaaaaaay down because he wanted to make sure there were zero mistakes.

And I think part of it was because he knew that if he needed to pick things back up, he could. He would. He was in complete command of the game and game script.

It was part of a continued evolution from Mahomes. If he needs to breath fire, he will. But when he doesn't need to, he knows how to just keep the game under control. He can be Rodgers OR he can be Brady.

He's a scary scary dude even when he isn't.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by TripleThreat

I don’t know. Yesterday seemed like a gift between the van noy penalty, then another penalty right after to give us 30 free yards. Then the zay flowers taunting followed by the fumble and then Lamar endzone INT and we still only won by a score.

Tell me you don't understand the NFL Rules without telling me you don't understand the NFL Rules...

Once a referee gets in between a scuffle, and then you have a half wit like Van Noy come in a head butt a player, they're going to throw a flag 10 outta 10 times. This isn't hard to understand or a weak call.

I won't even begin to address the rest of your dumbassery.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Also, OBJ looks cooked as all hell. Wow

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The Ravens were shitting down their legs, going to a strategy of don't give them any momentum, worked.

In the other game Detroit absolutely gave the 49ers momentum with their mistakes.

I just don't see how anyone can have watched the Lions game and not had that takeaway.

Guys - we SAW 2 hours later what happens when a team that has the ball on its racket refuses to play to the scoreboard.

To me, that's the end of the argument. The Lions were a road underdog and got a double digit lead. The refused to play like it. They did that stupid ****ing thing that coaches often SAY they're gonna do and they "Treated it like a 0-0 game...."

Why? It's not. You have a half of the game in the books and you know more about what you're working with than you had coming into the game. You have a lead and some margin to deal with.

So USE that knowledge and that margin. You don't get extra points for winning by 10 vs. 7.

Don't pretend like it's 0-0. Act like you're up. Go win the game by 1 if that's what it takes.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Hoover

I also ****ing hate Tony Romo and the constant doom and gloom coverage of how the Chiefs should be worried. Oh I can't believe they deferred and elected to give the Ravens the ball. No credit given for the Chiefs walking into that environment and taking the crowd out of that game after forcing a quick three and out and scoring a TD.

It sucks what they did to him, surprised he even wants that job after the insight and analysis he used to do... he might actual be worse than Collinsworth now.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

Also, OBJ looks cooked as all hell. Wow

i noticed him once i think

ravens had weapons this time tho

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

Also, OBJ looks cooked as all hell. Wow

I think he still has value as a consistent possession WR, but with Lamar Jackson he isn't capable of feeding a bunch of weapons consistently.

Rashad Bateman is basically dying there also.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

Underthrown ducks into triple coverage should NEVER be called PI

The Tom Brady special!

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Mecca

When your own team made more mental mistakes than the officials, and at least half of the mistakes by the officials went in your own team's favor.... It's time to blame your own team and not the refs. https://t.co/khtX0inAfP

— Marcus Whitman (@TFG_Football) January 29, 2024

Only idiots think it was the same thing.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

The Tom Brady special!

Maybe if Lamar chucked it through the stands 20 yards over his head it would have been called PI...

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So i re-watched the 2nd half last night just for grins.

And during the game I was just aggravated that we simply wouldn't push the ball. But on re-watch and after listening to the post-game, it's clear that this was Mahomes just going full Alex Smith out there.

He wasn't concerned anymore about scoring points. He (and Andy) were wholly content bleeding clock and leaning on their lead. He knew that if he just didn't make a mistake, the Ravens weren't going to come back and win it. So he took ZERO risks.

Contrast that with how he played on the first two drives. And hell, the throw he made on 3rd down when they had to have it. He HAD big plays. He HAD yards and probably points on the board. But he dialed that risk/reward calculus waaaaaaay down because he wanted to make sure there were zero mistakes.

And I think part of it was because he knew that if he needed to pick things back up, he could. He would. He was in complete command of the game and game script.

It was part of a continued evolution from Mahomes. If he needs to breath fire, he will. But when he doesn't need to, he knows how to just keep the game under control. He can be Rodgers OR he can be Brady.

He's a scary scary dude even when he isn't.

Was just going to post this. I was furious with how passive we were on offense in the second half, and watching Pats presser I was in utter shock that it was just him being ultra conservative, taking no risks because the defense had it on lock.

When he had to turn it on though, 3rd an 9 for a trip to the SB, he was the Grim Reaper again dropping an absolute dime on MVS.

Reid mentioned Pat taking the sack to keep clock running and not putting the ball at risk as well.

Just gotta trust 15.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

It sucks what they did to him, surprised he even wants that job after the insight and analysis he used to do... he might actual be worse than Collinsworth now.

"But man, this Ravens team has been so dominant this year.... If I'm the Chiefs coming into this stadium, I'd be feeling nervous. I DUNNO JIM"

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It's obvious that production turned him into a cartoon. Romo was really good that first year and CBS HATED it. It really sucks...

[CaptainMorgan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I just don't see how anyone can have watched the Lions game and not had that takeaway.

Guys - we SAW 2 hours later what happens when a team that has the ball on its racket refuses to play to the scoreboard.

To me, that's the end of the argument. The Lions were a road underdog and got a double digit lead. The refused to play like it. They did that stupid ****ing thing that coaches often SAY they're gonna do and they "Treated it like a 0-0 game...."

Why? It's not. You have a half of the game in the books and you know more about what you're working with than you had coming into the game. You have a lead and some margin to deal with.

So USE that knowledge and that margin. You don't get extra points for winning by 10 vs. 7.

Don't pretend like it's 0-0. Act like you're up. Go win the game by 1 if that's what it takes.

Ignoring situation, circumstances and information available to you and making decisions as if those situations, circumstances and information don't exist/aren't known to you. Imagine anyone else applying this framework to literally any other job in the world.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by TripleThreat

Just because they are penalties doesn’t mean we weren’t lucky in getting them lol. They were poorly prepared and poorly coached for that game. No one could have predicted those dumb penalties which again is why I don’t necessarily agree with the OP or this stance of we were playing and not scoring points because that was the game plan?

Then you are clueless. This was one of Reid's best coaching jobs.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

Look...I get what he's saying but ultimately I think it's a cop out fir just how bad they reacted to Baltimores adjustments on defense. It also allowed our defense to be on the field all half and the Ravens moved the ball at will in the 2nd half.

The chiefs defense were on the field for less than 12 minutes in the 2nd half.

The Ravens 2nd half offense had drives of:


1:22 3 plays PUNT

4:34 7 plays PUNT

00:57 5 plays FUMBLE

3:50 12 plays INT

2:26 9 plays FG

So the Chiefs had greater TOP in the second half also. I never felt that a two score lead was anything Baltimore could overcome with that QB.