Patrick Mahomes: Game Manager

[DJ's left nut]

So i re-watched the 2nd half last night just for grins.

And during the game I was just aggravated that we simply wouldn't push the ball. But on re-watch and after listening to the post-game, it's clear that this was Mahomes just going full Alex Smith out there.

He wasn't concerned anymore about scoring points. He (and Andy) were wholly content bleeding clock and leaning on their lead. He knew that if he just didn't make a mistake, the Ravens weren't going to come back and win it. So he took ZERO risks.

Contrast that with how he played on the first two drives. And hell, the throw he made on 3rd down when they had to have it. He HAD big plays. He HAD yards and probably points on the board. But he dialed that risk/reward calculus waaaaaaay down because he wanted to make sure there were zero mistakes.

And I think part of it was because he knew that if he needed to pick things back up, he could. He would. He was in complete command of the game and game script.

It was part of a continued evolution from Mahomes. If he needs to breath fire, he will. But when he doesn't need to, he knows how to just keep the game under control. He can be Rodgers OR he can be Brady.

He's a scary scary dude even when he isn't.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

It's funny how so many people want to run the ball more and play good defense, and when that happens, people freak out that the two score game against a team that's scored once in 3 quarters is too close for comfort (I'm sure there's at least some overlap there).

It reminded me of those 2021 games, like against the Cowboys where neither team really had anything on offense, but the score may have been exactly the same... and it's just uncomfortable for people.

I read a few "the offense will have to win this" comments when the Ravens were driving a bit, and sure enough, Lamar throws an interception.

I totally get why they're uncomfortable in the sense that crazy shit happens, but just assuming it will happen and the defense will fail is kind of absurd at this point of the season, and against an offense like that... because Chiefs has no bounds.

I mean, it's not because Chiefs. It's because Reid. Hindsight being 50/50 we can all celebrate because we won, but it's not a fluke that he was 4-3 (now 5-3) in playoff games that his teams led by 10+ at the half. I still think they throttled WAAAAYYYYY too early and it took some egregiously stupid football by the Ravens to help secure the win.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by irafreak

I'm twelve pages late but this is exactly what I saw too. Start of the 3rd quarter, only thought in my mind was...just don't let them back in the game with a turnover.

I had zero doubt that we would see first half offense if we needed to open it up again. Pat and kelce were on fire and those windows were tight. We weren't scheming guys wide open like in Buffalo. We had to be aggressive to get that lead. The plan was to put the pressure on Baltimore and watch them crumble. It worked.

12 pages? Change your post per page dude, it's not 2003 anymore.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by philfree

LOL Romo has done how many Chiefs games at this point? We always defer so he is a proven dumbass. He's the guy that dropped the snap on a FG and he cost his team the game. That's who he is.

We probably did. You want to score first against Baltimore to force them to throw more often. We saw how shitty that offense is in the 2nd half when they are playing behind.

Generally you want to defer to make sure you get ball first in second half. Analytics generally say there is a slight advantage in doing that. Its just that the Ravens are exponentially better playing from a lead than behind that it is probably a wash at best.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BWillie

We probably did. You want to score first against Baltimore to force them to throw more often. We saw how shitty that offense is in the 2nd half when they are playing behind.

Generally you want to defer to make sure you get ball first in second half. Analytics generally say there is a slight advantage in doing that. Its just that the Ravens are exponentially better playing from a league than behind that it is probably a wash at best.

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[DanT]

Originally Posted by JPH83

Not sure what show it is but Simms explaining to Florio Mahomes' greatness was beautiful to watch. Florio looked like he was at a funeral.

On today's Pro Football Talk, Phil's son Chris Simms talked to Mike Florio about how Mahomes is peaking physically and mentally and they both told the haters that they better get used to Mahomes being around! https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/nfl/...cally-mentally

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

That end zone pick was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen in the playoffs. Sometimes guys get baited or the scheme is just excellent. Not this time, that was just ****ing double coverage with a guy reading the routes. When he released it, it was obvious it was triple coverage.

He biffed that one in a giant way. That one is inexcusable.

Similar to the Jordan Love throw against the Niners last week.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by petegz28

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Just sharing my opinion. We should all share our opinions on this great football message board.

[philfree]

Mahomes doesn't manage the game he owns it.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

Look...I get what he's saying but ultimately I think it's a cop out fir just how bad they reacted to Baltimores adjustments on defense. It also allowed our defense to be on the field all half and the Ravens moved the ball at will in the 2nd half.

Wut?

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Similar to the Jordan Love throw against the Niners last week.

Packers might have Brett Favre 2.0 after watching the very careful Aaron Rodgers who refused to put the ball in harm’s way for 15 years. Welcome back to the 1990’s roller coaster, Green Bay. Lol

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Wut?

Odd they only chose to score 3 then.

Overconfidence?...

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

That end zone pick was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen in the playoffs. Sometimes guys get baited or the scheme is just excellent. Not this time, that was just ****ing double coverage with a guy reading the routes. When he released it, it was obvious it was triple coverage.

He biffed that one in a giant way. That one is inexcusable.

I genuinely think he just threw it when Likely put his hand up signaling he got behind the defense, completely ignoring the coverage. Theres no other explanation i can think of for why he'd throw it there. And on top of that, it was just a horrible ball. Uncatchable, behind him, right into triple coverage. Just a horrible decision.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

I genuinely think he just threw it when Likely put his hand up signaling he got behind the defense, completely ignoring the coverage. Theres no other explanation i can think of for why he'd throw it there. And on top of that, it was just a horrible ball. Uncatchable, behind him, right into triple coverage. Just a horrible decision.

Horrible decision, horrible throw, and horrible timing on 2nd down. If it was 4th down with the game on the line, it would be more understandable.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

I mean, it's not because Chiefs. It's because Reid. Hindsight being 50/50 we can all celebrate because we won, but it's not a fluke that he was 4-3 (now 5-3) in playoff games that his teams led by 10+ at the half. I still think they throttled WAAAAYYYYY too early and it took some egregiously stupid football by the Ravens to help secure the win.

Exactly my point earlier. It took incredibly stupid mistakes to hold that lead. Many of us sat in person and watched them **** around and lose to Cincinnati in the AFCC so ya I wanted to see the offenses actually do something to feel comfortable and 5 straight punts wasn't it...

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BWillie

BWillie is always wrong except that hes almost never wrong!