Patrick Mahomes: Game Manager

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I'm surprised people really think Mahomes didn't want to score any more points. Of course they did. Why in the world would they want to be so conservative and put their completely gassed defense back on the field time and time again, only to get lucky and bailed out by the punch out and taunting penalty?

The fact is Andy and Nagy called a poor second half game. Baltimore took away the first half strengths and KC couldn't adjust.

Patrick was definitely being cautious with his throws in the 2nd half. He even took some sacks instead of forcing the ball into coverage at times. He was doing everything possible to avoid turnovers, which were a major problem for him during the regular season.

I also think Andy's playcalling was more conservative in some situations, like when he did back to back rushing plays on 1st and 2nd down even though the 1st down play went for zero yardage.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Patrick was definitely being cautious with his throws in the 2nd half. He even took some sacks instead of forcing the ball into coverage at times. He was doing everything possible to avoid turnovers, which were a major problem for him during the regular season.

I also think Andy's playcalling was more conservative in some situations, like when he did back to back rushing plays on 1st and 2nd down even though the 1st down play went for zero yardage.

It's so obviously not just Andy's playcalling that led to it.

Because when Andy gets cautious, if Pat's not on the same page, he does that stuff where he holds the ball too long, won't come off guys, waits for a first read to open up and then gets himself it or commits a turnover.

Mahomes as at the back of his drop and the ball was out - immediately. If it wasn't, he started looking for a lane to run or in one case took a sack.

It was OBVIOUSLY a concerted effort to keep the clock running and protect the ball. From Reid, yes, but Mahomes as well. It was the PLAN after halftime.

It wasn't an accident. It wasn't a necessary evil. It was how they intended to win that game and they were dead-ass right.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's so obviously not just Andy's playcalling that led to it.

Because when Andy gets cautious, if Pat's not on the same page, he does that stuff where he holds the ball too long, won't come off guys, waits for a first read to open up and then gets himself it or commits a turnover.

Mahomes as at the back of his drop and the ball was out - immediately. If it wasn't, he started looking for a lane to run or in one case took a sack.

It was OBVIOUSLY a concerted effort to keep the clock running and protect the ball. From Reid, yes, but Mahomes as well. It was the PLAN after halftime.

It wasn't an accident. It wasn't a necessary evil. It was how they intended to win that game and they were dead-ass right.

I like this version of Mahomes. I know people want to see the exciting plays, but more than anything I want Patrick to avoid the dumb mistakes that hurt the team. If he can fully eliminate his Brett Favre aggressiveness for the rest of his Playoff career, the Chiefs are gonna be really hard to beat every year.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by DRM08

I like this version of Mahomes. I know people want to see the exciting plays, but more than anything I want Patrick to avoid the dumb mistakes that hurt the team. If he can fully eliminate his Brett Favre aggressiveness for the rest of his Playoff career, the Chiefs are gonna be really hard to beat every year.

Yeah I think most of us have moved on past style points, and needing to see the big bombs from the early days

If game managing/dink and dunking is the best way to win then lets roll with that... winning Super Bowls is way more exciting than a 70 yard bomb

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by DRM08

I like this version of Mahomes. I know people want to see the exciting plays, but more than anything I want Patrick to avoid the dumb mistakes that hurt the team. If he can fully eliminate his Brett Favre aggressiveness for the rest of his Playoff career, the Chiefs are gonna be really hard to beat every year.

As opposed to...every other year...where they are hard to beat and go to the AFCCG? When were they ever easy to beat? Just checking...

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven

As opposed to...every other year...where they are hard to beat and go to the AFCCG? When were they ever easy to beat? Just checking...

Hard to beat every year, but still want him to avoid turnovers in these big pressure games. He had some turnovers against Cincy, Tampa, & Niners that put the team in a very rough spot each time.

If he can pretty much eliminate those big mistakes, KC will have a strong chance in the 4th quarter of every Playoff game. It's all we can ask for. In the last 6 Playoff games, he has one turnover on a flukey play where the ball slipped out of his hand while trying to throw it against the Bengals. Other than that, he has done a great job protecting the ball the last 2 years in the Playoffs. Keep it up Patrick.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's so obviously not just Andy's playcalling that led to it.

Because when Andy gets cautious, if Pat's not on the same page, he does that stuff where he holds the ball too long, won't come off guys, waits for a first read to open up and then gets himself it or commits a turnover.

Mahomes as at the back of his drop and the ball was out - immediately. If it wasn't, he started looking for a lane to run or in one case took a sack.

It was OBVIOUSLY a concerted effort to keep the clock running and protect the ball. From Reid, yes, but Mahomes as well. It was the PLAN after halftime.

It wasn't an accident. It wasn't a necessary evil. It was how they intended to win that game and they were dead-ass right.

As long as they were ahead by two scores they were not going to do a damn thing to risk it.

And when the Ravens got within a play of having a whiff of tying the game, they dialed up the dagger.

Andy won plenty of games in Philly that way. Hell, with Alex.