Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Go ahead and leave me more negative reputation even though I'm coming back after a loss and discussing the game on the merits, I bet it makes you feel real powerful.

dude I gave you two neg reps TOTAL


but yes, I feel amazing, thank you.

[Hammock Parties]

mmm! chris jones PENIS! me rikey!

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Not sure Buffalo would have made the Super Bowl. Even if Buffalo won the 13 seconds game, they would still have to get past a pretty tough Cincy Bengals team. Cincy has whipped Buffalo twice in the last two seasons. I think the 13 seconds game took a lot out of both KC and Buffalo. Whoever won that game was gonna be running on fumes in the next game against the Bengals.

Chiefs were up 21-3 on the bengals in the first half. Chiefs weren’t running on fumes. Pat just played his worse half of postseason football of his career.

Josh was on a Mahomes like tear. Much better than the following year when the bills lost to the bengals. He shredded both defenses he faced in the playoffs that year. Bills would have beaten the bengals that year, imo.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

Chiefs were up 21-3 on the bengals in the first half. Chiefs weren’t running on fumes. Pat just played his worse half of postseason football of his career.

Josh was on a Mahomes like tear. Much better than the following year when the bills lost to the bengals. He shredded both defenses he faced in the playoffs that year. Bills would have beaten the bengals that year, imo.

He ran out of gas by halftime of that Bengals game. And I think you underrate the Cincy defense. Allen wasn't gonna torch them for 4 quarters. That same Cincy defense held the Rams to only 23 points when they were torching everyone else they played, such as scoring 30 points on the road against a pretty good defense for the defending champs in Tampa Bay.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I wish someone would upload Turning Point to Fishkernfl or the Bay.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by DRM08

He ran out of gas by halftime of that Bengals game. And I think you underrate the Cincy defense. Allen wasn't gonna torch them for 4 quarters. That same Cincy defense held the Rams to only 23 points when they were torching everyone else they played, such as scoring 30 points on the road against a pretty good defense for the defending champs in Tampa Bay.

So, which is it? Did Mahomes run out of gas after putting up 21 points or was the Bengals defense just that great? I think you underestimate just how well Josh was playing. His performances against the Pats and Chiefs that year were better than any two postseason games Mahomes has had.

[Coochie liquor]

Clowney kicking Pacheco should be a suspension

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

So, which is it? Did Mahomes run out of gas after putting up 21 points or was the Bengals defense just that great? I think you underestimate just how well Josh was playing. His performances against the Pats and Chiefs that year were better than any two postseason games Mahomes has had.

Allen torched a Chiefs defense that was falling down on a lot of the plays. Wide open receivers. I think Mahomes outplayed him in that 13 seconds game. Mahomes was going against the #1 ranked defense in the league. ESPN QBR grades were 97/100 for Mahomes and 92/100 for Allen in that game. So I'm gonna strongly disagree with your statement that Allen outplayed him in that game. Apparently ESPN agrees with me on it.

The Bengals in 2021 had a much better defense than the 2021 Chiefs defense. So hell no, I don't think Allen would have torched the Bengals for 4 quarters. Stafford & Mahomes weren't able to do it. Josh Allen himself has not been able to do it when he went against that Cincy defense in 2022 and 2023.

[Hammock Parties]

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Allen torched a Chiefs defense that was falling down on a lot of the plays. Wide open receivers. I think Mahomes outplayed him in that 13 seconds game. Mahomes was going against the #1 ranked defense in the league. ESPN QBR grades were 97/100 for Mahomes and 92/100 for Allen in that game.

The Bengals in 2021 had a much better defense than the 2021 Chiefs defense. So hell no, I don't think Allen would have torched the Bengals for 4 quarters. Stafford & Mahomes weren't able to do it. Josh Allen himself has not been able to do it when he went against that Cincy defense in 2022 and 2023.

Josh Allen is better than Stafford. Bengals defense was 17th in 2021 and 6th in 2022. The bills had the #1 defense in 2021 though. Bengals barely beat the damn raiders and titans. Youre building up the Bengals because they beat the Chiefs.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

Josh Allen is better than Stafford. Bengals defense was 17th in 2021 and 6th in 2022. The bills had the #1 defense in 2021 though. Bengals barely beat the damn raiders and titans. Youre building up the Bengals because they beat the Chiefs.

They barely beat the Raiders & Titans because their offense with Burrow is overrated as hell. The Cincy defense carried them to those wins. And they held a very hot Stafford to 23 points after he torched the defending champs Tampa in their house.

The following year in the Playoffs the Bengals shutdown Josh Allen to only 10 points in his stadium. A much worse version of the Bengals defense this year held Josh Allen to 17 points. Their 2021 defense would have done just fine against him, based on what they did against a pretty hot Stafford & Mahomes and based on what they've done against Allen in 2022 and 2023.

[jerryaldini]

before this guy could get home


the kid was kickin it in Vegas already

[Hammock Parties]

[Graystoke]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Amazing

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by DRM08

They barely beat the Raiders & Titans because their offense with Burrow is overrated as hell. The Cincy defense carried them to those wins. And they held a very hot Stafford to 23 points after he torched the defending champs Tampa in their house.

The following year in the Playoffs the Bengals shutdown Josh Allen to only 10 points in his stadium. A much worse version of the Bengals defense this year held Josh Allen to 17 points. Their 2021 defense would have done just fine against him, based on what they did against a pretty hot Stafford & Mahomes and based on what they've done against Allen in 2022 and 2023.

What happens the following year is WHOLLY irrelevant. There is no transitive property in football. Chiefs beat the bengals the second time after losing the first. Ravens lost to the titans after losing to them first. Josh has a winning record against the Chiefs in the regular season. Burrow is undefeated. Burrow has a losing record to Baker. So, what happened the following year doesn’t tell you much about what would have happened the prior year.

And if the Bengals offense was overrated how do you support they would have faired against the #1 defense in the league??? The Bills were better on both sides of the ball and it wasn’t close. Bills would have been as big of favorites as the chiefs were. And Josh was “hotter” than Stafford.

There is zero reason to believe the bengals would have beaten the bills except that the bengals beat the Chiefs. And that literally required an epic collapse of the best qb in the game.