NFL Draft ***2024 NFL Combine Thread***

kccrow · 03-02-2024, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I don't think he's worth a 1st or a 2nd.

Would feel like another

CEH
Mecole Hardman
Skyy Moore

draft pick.

lol. Hardman couldn't hold a candle to Worthy at any point in his career. It's not even a comparison. Hardman is the definition of straight-line speed and lack of route-running acumen. Worthy is on an entirely different level in every category. Your love affair wasn't even the best receiver on his own team and this guy is the reason for it. You gotta stop being blinded and simply watch the actual tape man. Just actually watch it because this shit is tiring and horrendous.

You can like one without shitting on the other with terrible takes.

MahomesMagic · 03-02-2024, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

lol. Hardman couldn't hold a candle to Worthy at any point in his career. It's not even a comparison. Hardman is the definition of straight-line speed and lack of route-running acumen. Worthy is on an entirely different level in every category. Your love affair wasn't even the best receiver on his own team and this guy is the reason for it. You gotta stop being blinded and simply watch the actual tape man. Just actually watch it because this shit is tiring and horrendous.

You can like one without shitting on the other with terrible takes.

The scouts prefer Adonai.

Worthy is the flavor of the month of the Twitter spread sheet nerds who will downgrade him on their boards if he gets drafted after Adonai because "draft capital".

kccrow · 03-02-2024, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

The scouts prefer Adonai.

Worthy is the flavor of the month of the Twitter spread sheet nerds who will downgrade him on their boards if he gets drafted after Adonai because "draft capital".

Worthy is the flavor of the month?

Worthy had a mid-2nd to mid-1st grade a while ago ago. You know what grade Adonai had up until a couple months ago? About the 4th-5th round. You know why? Because Adonai isn't polished and he's wildly inconsistent. He had 3 games to write home about in 2023. Kansas. Kansas State. Oklahoma State. He got a couple of big plays on Alabama with broken coverage assignments but outside of those they shut him down, just like every other team all season long. Take those 3 games away and he had 31 receptions for 446 yards in 11 games. Take away Worthy's best 3 games and he had 50 receptions for 676 yards in 11 games. So 3 catches for 40 yards in most games versus 5 catches for 60 yards in most games. That's a pretty significant discrepancy.

But you know what I acknowledge? That Adonai has the chance to develop into a really good NFL WR. He has a ways to go, and I don't know if he has enough the minute he steps on a field to warrant a 1st round pick, but he's easily a 2nd round pick that you can take a shot on just like a George Pickens or an Alec Pierce. He's more in line with those guys than any guys you've referenced at any point that I can recall. And that is 100% fine. If he does develop fully into his potential, you have a really great WR. And if you decide you need to take him in 1, then that's okay too. I wouldn't bitch. It's like the conundrum with the kid GB took, Watson. He wasn't a 1st rounder, he just wasn't ready to be a big time player right away. But they took him super early... close enough to our pick... with the expectation they could develop the flaws.

When Worthy steps onto an NFL field, teams have to immediately respect his ability to house it on any play. They have to respect his ability to snap off whip routes. They have to respect his ability to get deep and track the football. That's alot more than you have to currently respect with Adonai and it's why college teams put their best CBs on Worthy and rolled coverages over the top while leaving Adonai one-on-one against their #2. It's reality. And that's not a 3rd round pedigree. I don't care what way you want to spout off on that. Worthy is as good as both Jordan Addison and Zay Flowers were as prospects last year but he's way faster. His route variation and ability to snap routes are every bit on par with those kids. His hands are at least on par with Flowers. And he's the fastest player ever recorded at he combine to boot. Addison was 5'11' 173. Worthy is 5'11" 165. Addison just put up 70/911/10. The **** if Worthy isn't a 1st round prospect.

MahomesMagic · 03-02-2024, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Worthy is the flavor of the month?

Worthy had a mid-2nd to mid-1st grade a while ago ago. You know what grade Adonai had up until a couple months ago? About the 4th-5th round. You know why? Because Adonai isn't polished and he's wildly inconsistent. He had 3 games to write home about in 2023. Kansas. Kansas State. Oklahoma State. He got a couple of big plays on Alabama with broken coverage assignments but outside of those they shut him down, just like every other team all season long. Take those 3 games away and he had 31 receptions for 446 yards in 11 games. Take away Worthy's best 3 games and he had 50 receptions for 676 yards in 11 games. So 3 catches for 40 yards in most games versus 5 catches for 60 yards in most games. That's a pretty significant discrepancy.

But you know what I acknowledge? That Adonai has the chance to develop into a really good NFL WR. He has a ways to go, and I don't know if he has enough the minute he steps on a field to warrant a 1st round pick, but he's easily a 2nd round pick that you can take a shot on just like a George Pickens or an Alec Pierce. He's more in line with those guys than any guys you've referenced at any point that I can recall. And that is 100% fine. If he does develop fully into his potential, you have a really great WR. And if you decide you need to take him in 1, then that's okay too. I wouldn't bitch. It's like the conundrum with the kid GB took, Watson. He wasn't a 1st rounder, he just wasn't ready to be a big time player right away. But they took him super early... close enough to our pick... with the expectation they could develop the flaws.

When Worthy steps onto an NFL field, teams have to immediately respect his ability to house it on any play. They have to respect his ability to snap off whip routes. They have to respect his ability to get deep and track the football. That's alot more than you have to currently respect with Adonai and it's why college teams put their best CBs on Worthy and rolled coverages over the top while leaving Adonai one-on-one against their #2. It's reality. And that's not a 3rd round pedigree. I don't care what way you want to spout off on that. Worthy is as good as both Jordan Addison and Zay Flowers were as prospects last year but he's way faster. His route variation and ability to snap routes are every bit on par with those kids. His hands are at least on par with Flowers. And he's the fastest player ever recorded at he combine to boot. Addison was 5'11' 173. Worthy is 5'11" 165. Addison just put up 70/911/10. The **** if Worthy isn't a 1st round prospect.

Then why would he be drafted later?

kccrow · 03-03-2024, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Then why would he be drafted later?

Is he?

Plenty of teams need WRs. In the top 10, the Bears, Commanders, Cardinals, Patriots, Chargers, Giants, Falcons, and Jets could all feasibly take one if some of them decide not to go OL or QB. I'd say it's a lock the top 3 WRs go in the top 9 picks.

After those, the Colts at 15, Bengals at 18, Texans at 23 are all easy possibilities. You also have trade-up possibilities by the Bucs, Cardinals (if they don't take one at 4), Bills, Ravens, and Chiefs.

Those guys went at 22 and 23. If a team wants a downfield playmaker to compliment their #1 because they have one (like the Colts if they re-sign Pittman, the Bengals, the Texan, the Bills, etc) then they are likely to want Worthy over Thomas Jr, Mitchell, Franklin etc.

That's why I have been saying now for a day that there is a great shot he's the 4th WR taken. I'd almost bet on it. Almost.

MahomesMagic · 03-03-2024, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Is he?

Plenty of teams need WRs. In the top 10, the Bears, Commanders, Cardinals, Patriots, Chargers, Giants, Falcons, and Jets could all feasibly take one if some of them decide not to go OL or QB. I'd say it's a lock the top 3 WRs go in the top 9 picks.

After those, the Colts at 15, Bengals at 18, Texans at 23 are all easy possibilities. You also have trade-up possibilities by the Bucs, Cardinals (if they don't take one at 4), Bills, Ravens, and Chiefs.

Those guys went at 22 and 23. If a team wants a downfield playmaker to compliment their #1 because they have one (like the Colts if they re-sign Pittman, the Bengals, the Texan, the Bills, etc) then they are likely to want Worthy over Thomas Jr, Mitchell, Franklin etc.

That's why I have been saying now for a day that there is a great shot he's the 4th WR taken. I'd almost bet on it. Almost.

I hope you are right and some NFL team passes on Thomas Jr for tiny little Worthy.

I would be so excited because that helps KC.

kozzman555 · 03-03-2024, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I hope you are right and some NFL team passes on Thomas Jr for tiny little Worthy.

I would be so excited because that helps KC.

Bruh, what's your hate for smaller receivers that are fast as all get out? You have seen what Andy Reid has done with a couple of guys named Tyreek Hill and Desean Jackson, right?