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Old 02-26-2024, 03:13 PM  
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Old 03-03-2024, 02:26 PM   #496
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The pick itself was bad. No defending that part.

I’m just talking about the philosophy behind it. Jonathan Taylor was the clear top running back and would’ve been a Homerun in hindsight.

The Chiefs failed in their evaluation of the running backs, but not their philosophy in taking one.

And I normally hate first round running backs.
You don't just take a RB in round 1.

You only take a RB if you think you have a Breece Hall or something there.

CEH they said reminded them of Brian Westbrook.





I didn't hate CEH, actually liked him that draft but there were 3 obvious guys ahead:

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Swift(valued the catching so I put him ahead of Taylor for KC)
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Old 03-03-2024, 04:07 PM   #497
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I’ll always kinda wonder how CEHs career would have gone if he never gets hurt against the Saints.

He was looking like a weapon.
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Old 03-03-2024, 04:48 PM   #498
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I’ll always kinda wonder how CEHs career would have gone if he never gets hurt against the Saints.

He was looking like a weapon.
He didn't have the same stop-start burst after that hip injury, I don't think.

But I think his lack of size AND his inability to outrun LB at this level really mitigated his ability as a receiving back at the NFL level. He was so deadly on angle routes and wheels in college, but it just didn't translate.

I was a Swift guy going into that draft. Still think that would have worked out a little better, though I don't know that it really changes much over the past 4 years.
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Old 03-03-2024, 05:02 PM   #499
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Elite talent at LT opens up the offense a lot more than an elite WR.
WTF? Yeah, Larry Allen was a BEAST but if I had to pick between Allen and Jerry Rice, I am taking Rice.

If I had to pick between Allen and Randy Moss, I take Moss.

Our QB is Patrick Mahomes. He rarely gets sacked because he has elite pocket awareness. A good to good LT and an elite WR is definitely better than a elite tackle and good WR.

I am not saying that I don't want a stud at LT, but Mahomes isn't Brady. If Brady was our QB, yeah, take the elite tackle.
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Old 03-03-2024, 05:04 PM   #500
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WTF? Yeah, Larry Allen was a BEAST but if I had to pick between Allen and Jerry Rice, I am taking Rice.

If I had to pick between Allen and Randy Moss, I take Moss.

Our QB is Patrick Mahomes. He rarely gets sacked because he has elite pocket awareness. A good to good LT and an elite WR is definitely better than a elite tackle and good WR.

I am not saying that I don't want a stud at LT, but Mahomes isn't Brady. If Brady was our QB, yeah, take the elite tackle.
Yeah, it's nice having a great LT but its kind of overkill with Mahomes.

Just needs someone that will not get beat immediately and that's enough.


Rather have the Elite weapons that get open as Mahomes can create.
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Old 03-03-2024, 05:18 PM   #501
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Old 03-03-2024, 06:48 PM   #502
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And it means **** all if they can’t ****ing catch the ball. Where have we seen this before?

To be fair, he was playing with a broken hand in that game. His hands may not be elite, but they are not as bad as they looked on those two drops.
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WTF? Yeah, Larry Allen was a BEAST but if I had to pick between Allen and Jerry Rice, I am taking Rice.

If I had to pick between Allen and Randy Moss, I take Moss.

Our QB is Patrick Mahomes. He rarely gets sacked because he has elite pocket awareness. A good to good LT and an elite WR is definitely better than a elite tackle and good WR.

I am not saying that I don't want a stud at LT, but Mahomes isn't Brady. If Brady was our QB, yeah, take the elite tackle.
Clay is right. LT comes first. There are good WR’s that come out every year. You’ve seen a George Pickens outside of the first rd. Dell, Rice, Nacua and Reed weren’t first rd picks.

It’s way harder to find a LT long term. If there’s one in play in the 1st rd you take them without blinking
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Clay is right. LT comes first. There are good WR’s that come out every year. You’ve seen a George Pickens outside of the first rd. Dell, Rice, Nacua and Reed weren’t first rd picks.

It’s way harder to find a LT long term. If there’s one in play in the 1st rd you take them without blinking
Yeah...like who? Who is this starting LT that we're going to get at the bottom of the first round?
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Yeah...like who? Who is this starting LT that we're going to get at the bottom of the first round?
Successful tackles are usually a first half of the first round pick.

WR picks have success in the first couple rounds.

Picking at 32 isn't remotely conducive to finding the LT of the future.
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Most tackles taken at the end of the first/second...end up being RT's.
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Successful tackles are usually a first half of the first round pick.

WR picks have success in the first couple rounds.

Picking at 32 isn't remotely conducive to finding the LT of the future.
It has to be addressed and hoping for a Donovan Smith to be sitting there in FA waiting for KC to sign so he can rebuild his value is not a feasible long term strategy.
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Most tackles taken at the end of the first/second...end up being RT's.
But, it’s an unusually good tackle class. Worthy may have just pushed one down a spot. Ideally you do it just like last year.
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There's no elite LT at 32, there's maybe a few guys with significant questions attached to them, and that will need time, a luxury you don't really have with that position. If we have a reasonable shot at a Franklin, Worthy or Mitchell we should take it.
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