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Old 03-08-2024, 07:09 AM   #1
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That was a super bargain signing to begin with.

This is absolutely not what you’d expect him to get on the open market given the level of his play.
FWIW Barnwell had drue tranquill in the tier of linebackers of "backups likely to earn guaranteed money" and projected salary in the 1.5-3 mil per season. Even if he was in the next tier up Barnwell had those "borderline starters/high end backups" in the 3-5 million per season range.
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Old 03-08-2024, 10:44 AM   #2
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FWIW Barnwell had drue tranquill in the tier of linebackers of "backups likely to earn guaranteed money" and projected salary in the 1.5-3 mil per season. Even if he was in the next tier up Barnwell had those "borderline starters/high end backups" in the 3-5 million per season range.
Someone would have paid him. Glad it's us.
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:07 AM   #3
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Someone would have paid him. Glad it's us.
Yeah, zero chance Tranquill only gets $1.5 to $3 mil if he hit the market after the season he just had. $6.5 million average is a bargain for what he brings to this team. Well worth it.
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:54 AM   #4
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Someone would have paid him. Glad it's us.
We'll never know. And that's fine by me. My only point is that I don't think it was as big of a team friendly deal as twisted seems to think it is.
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Old 03-08-2024, 12:05 PM   #5
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We'll never know. And that's fine by me. My only point is that I don't think it was as big of a team friendly deal as twisted seems to think it is.
He would have gotten paid more elsewhere. It most likely also let's us walk from Gay.
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Old 03-08-2024, 12:14 PM   #6
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He would have gotten paid more elsewhere. It most likely also let's us walk from Gay.
This along with Chanel becoming a great player made Gay expendable.
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Old 03-08-2024, 12:11 PM   #7
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We'll never know. And that's fine by me. My only point is that I don't think it was as big of a team friendly deal as twisted seems to think it is.
I think this is one of those weird ones where it's a good deal in terms of his contributions to the team relative to our other contracts but just a fair deal in terms of market value. He probably would have been able to get more elsewhere, but I don't think it would have been DRAMATICALLY more.
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I think this is one of those weird ones where it's a good deal in terms of his contributions to the team relative to our other contracts but just a fair deal in terms of market value. He probably would have been able to get more elsewhere, but I don't think it would have been DRAMATICALLY more.
This.

Again, i ask....what did he do last year that he didn't already demonstrate as a Charger in a full time role? Seriously.

No, i don't believe for a second that his market shot up as a part time player for us and that he took some home town discount.
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Old 03-08-2024, 03:14 PM   #9
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FWIW Barnwell had drue tranquill in the tier of linebackers of "backups likely to earn guaranteed money" and projected salary in the 1.5-3 mil per season. Even if he was in the next tier up Barnwell had those "borderline starters/high end backups" in the 3-5 million per season range.
You neglected to mention that Barnwell also has Willie Gay in a Tier of “capable starters” likely to earn 7-10mm per.

I think it’s a much smarter move to bring back Tranquil rather than Gay even if it were the same money.
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Old 03-08-2024, 03:35 PM   #10
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You neglected to mention that Barnwell also has Willie Gay in a Tier of “capable starters” likely to earn 7-10mm per.

I think it’s a much smarter move to bring back Tranquil rather than Gay even if it were the same money.
I think it's safer. And I think the Chiefs obviously prefer Tranquill so it's kinda silly for me to argue to the contrary.

But I think Gay brings some really unique attributes to the table that we're going to miss even if Chenal steps up (Leo just doesn't have Gay's fluidity).

If I could have either guy for the same money, I'd bring back Gay. But the Chiefs clearly trust Tranquill more and there's something to be said for that.
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