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Old 03-07-2024, 10:13 AM  
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Old 03-08-2024, 09:21 AM   #151
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The one difference between him and Brown Jr is that OBJ is a RT who is determined to play LT and only being average at it. He overplayed his hand and Veach called his bluff. Jones is still playing at an elite/HOF level and has been pivotal in KCs last two SB wins. He’s gonna get $30 million a year, or a contract that makes it look like that. The big question now is who’s gonna pay it?

Didn’t OBJ end up getting a deal that secured him more guaranteed money than the Chiefs were offering? At least, that’s my recollection


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Old 03-08-2024, 09:24 AM   #152
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So far this whole thing reads to me the same as it did last year. Chris Jones says he wants to stay and gives a big speech at the parade, and Chiefs say they are optimistic, but then nothing gets done. And then Chris Jones trolls on Twitter, which I believe he does because he thinks it puts fan pressure on Veach to meet his demands, and then that has no effect. Rinse, repeat. Right now I do not believe anything will get done. There's no franchise tag or final contract year leverage for the Chiefs, and I doubt that Chris Jones has changed his attitude about what he wants that much since last offseason. Not mad at him about it, he was crucial to all 3 Super Bowl wins so I'll love him forever.
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Old 03-08-2024, 09:34 AM   #153
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Old 03-08-2024, 09:46 AM   #154
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Old 03-08-2024, 09:55 AM   #155
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tend to agree that if a deal isn't done by Monday, he gone

Tampering happens, they already know what he can get from other teams so why wait unless you plan to leave?

That's where if it's not done by Monday morning the Chiefs need to move on and make sure they sign the other guys they want.
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Old 03-08-2024, 09:59 AM   #156
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tend to agree that if a deal isn't done by Monday, he gone

Tampering happens, they already know what he can get from other teams so why wait unless you plan to leave?

That's where if it's not done by Monday morning the Chiefs need to move on and make sure they sign the other guys they want.
Christian Wilkins is another option at DT
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Old 03-08-2024, 10:03 AM   #157
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let's say CJ is gone hypothetically....

how do you wanna pivot in FA?

Veach isn't going down without signing guys he thinks are entering their prime

Who are the 25-27 year olds who they think can thrive here?
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Old 03-08-2024, 10:06 AM   #158
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Old 03-08-2024, 10:09 AM   #159
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This FA class is not good where the Chiefs needs are...

if Chris goes I think I'd strongly consider giving LJ the Jaylon Johnson deal
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Watch for Josh Jones and Andrus Peat. Jones is a very athletic LT that is only 27.

Chiefs were flirting with Peat a couple years ago and he’s played well at LT recently. Just turned 30.
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So...for all the supposition going on...

What if we DO pay CJ his money and he ends up like Aaron Donald and his skills start to decline starting next year?

We would be paying big bank for a lesser version?
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if Chris goes I think I'd strongly consider giving LJ the Jaylon Johnson deal
This. It makes no sense to not have at least one of them here long term. Even if a team was offering a first, if we lose CJ, we have to keep Sneed long term.
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So...for all the supposition going on...

What if we DO pay CJ his money and he ends up like Aaron Donald and his skills start to decline starting next year?

We would be paying big bank for a lesser version?
Other than 2022 when Aaron was injured he's been great since that deal. Him and Jones were 1 and 2 in pass rush wins last year. And he was high up there in 2022 before the injury issues.

I don't see Jones declining significantly in the next 3 years which will be where the majority of his contract guarantees will be
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This. It makes no sense to not have at least one of them here long term. Even if a team was offering a first, if we lose CJ, we have to keep Sneed long term.
What’s interesting about Sneed is how the Chiefs have handled him. Never once said they want him back. Even before the tag was applied all the news was that they are facilitating a trade for him. Letting him talk to other teams.

Sounds like they don’t want to keep Sneed either way
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