NFL likely banning hip-drop tackle

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I haven't been paying close attention to this, but I'm a little surprised to see people against banning the tackle type that almost cost us a Super Bowl. It seems like every time this kind of tackle happens the player is getting hurt, so it won't bother me to see them come down on it.

As for the arguments that they're ruining the game by eliminating offense or whatever, that doesn't make a ton of sense to me. The NFL is more popular than ever after two decades of neutering defenses. You can have your 7-6 final score games - I'll take offensive excitement.

Every year they make new rules and it's always in favor of the offense or making the game less physical. It's ridiculous. There needs to be more balance because eventually every D is going to be pretty much trash and the league will turn into the area football league.

Also, lets keep it real there weren't many 7-6 games even back in the day and there's nothing wrong with watching good defense. The Ravens D w Ray Lewis, Chiefs D in 1990s, Bucs D w Warren Sapp and company, Steelers w Polamalu were a joy to watch.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Every year they make new rules and it's always in favor of the offense or making the game less physical. It's ridiculous. There needs to be more balance because eventually every D is going to be pretty much trash and the league will turn into the area football league.

Also, lets keep it real there weren't many 7-6 games even back in the day and there's nothing wrong with watching good defense. The Ravens D w Ray Lewis, Chiefs D in 1990s, Bucs D w Warren Sapp and company, Steelers w Polamalu were a joy to watch.

And yet last year was a great year for defenses. Including our own. Defenses will adapt. From a player safety standpoint of course rules will and should favor offense. Because they are way more vulnerable to game and season impacting injuries and as long as that advantage is huge then defenses have an advantage and incentive to play dirty.

No position is more crucial to good game play in any sport than qb. And defenseless WRs are easily one of the most vulnerable on the field. So yeah, anyone would take arena league with the best players than replacement league with backups. I’m pretty sure of that.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And yet last year was a great year for defenses. Including our own. Defenses will adapt. From a player safety standpoint of course rules will and should favor offense. Because they are way more vulnerable to game and season impacting injuries and as long as that advantage is huge then defenses have an advantage and incentive to play dirty.

No position is more crucial to good game play in any sport than qb. And defenseless WRs are easily one of the most vulnerable on the field. So yeah, anyone would take arena league with the best players than replacement league with backups. I’m pretty sure of that.

Might want to chill with your exaggerations because that statement you made is ridiculous in the 1990s and early 2000s players weren't getting hurt like you are suggesting...

Defenses did good last season I admit, but there were a lot of injuries to QBs so that may have played a part. But there are no dominant defenses anymore, just good ones.

JJ Watt and plenty of other players have made statements echoing what I am saying so lets try and be objective here and realize if the NFL continues in this direction, defenses will continue to get worse. There should be more of a balance with these rule changes, that's all I'm saying.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...rop-tackle-ban

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Might want to chill with your exaggerations because that statement you made is ridiculous in the 1990s and early 2000s players weren't getting hurt like you are suggesting...

Defenses did good last season I admit, but there were a lot of injuries to QBs so that may have played a part. But there are no dominant defenses anymore, just good ones.

JJ Watt and plenty of other players have made statements echoing what I am saying so lets try and be objective here and realize the NFL continues in this direction defense will continue to get worse. There should be more of a balance with these rule changes, that's all I'm saying.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...rop-tackle-ban

Players are bigger and faster. A lot of the reason why dangerous hip drops are more common is because bigger guys are becoming better athletes. Concussion protocol is now enforced (and id hope people agree that’s a good thing) and that is going to be heavily skewed toward offense players. When it comes to contact it just goes without saying that offense players are going to be way more prone to injury. And big guys shouldn’t be punished just because they’re too big to take down.

Of course the players aren’t gonna like it. Neither side wants to soften the game. No player wants an independent doctor to dictate if they can play through a concussion or not. Players also don’t like targeting or roughing the passer calls. Too bad. Knocking players out of the game isn’t a strategy and players need to coach to find safer ways to tackle players.they won’t do it on their own so this forces their hand to figure something out.

I know you’re trying to hedge on defensive performance but last year was an outstanding year for defenses. And that includes the playoffs with healthy QBs. So the talk about the demise of defense is overblown. Defenses will adapt just as they have for all the roughing and targeting rules

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Players are bigger and faster. A lot of the reason why dangerous hip drops are more common is because bigger guys are becoming better athletes. Concussion protocol is now enforced (and id hope people agree that’s a good thing) and that is going to be heavily skewed toward offense players. When it comes to contact it just goes without saying that offense players are going to be way more prone to injury. And big guys shouldn’t be punished just because they’re too big to take down.

Of course the players aren’t gonna like it. Neither side wants to soften the game. No player wants an independent doctor to dictate if they can play through a concussion or not. Players also don’t like targeting or roughing the passer calls. Too bad. Knocking players out of the game isn’t a strategy and players need to coach to find safer ways to tackle players.they won’t do it on their own so this forces their hand to figure something out.

I know you’re trying to hedge on defensive performance but last year was an outstanding year for defenses. And that includes the playoffs with healthy QBs. So the talk about the demise of defense is overblown. Defenses will adapt just as they have for all the roughing and targeting rules

Um, how long you been watching football? Because it's always been a strategy, since about 100 years ago. Hell, it was a strategy in HS when I put on a uniform.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Um, how long you been watching football? Because it's always been a strategy, since about 100 years ago. Hell, it was a strategy in HS when I put on a uniform.

The defense has A gigantic incentive to play dirty and knock players out of games for avoidable hits. Way more so now that players are bigger, faster and with concussion protocols being strictly enforced. It is easier than ever to decide if you can’t beat mahomes, take your worst player out as a goon and knock him into the blue tent. Or to accept a 15 yard penalty to blast Justin Jefferson knowing that there’s a decent probability you can take him off the field for the rest of the game. Concussion protocols are relatively new. The frequency of these hip drop tackles is something newer. These are new elements of the game everyone is dealing with.

The likelihood of avoidable injury is way worse for offense players. And that is not something you want to incentivize in a game where a single qb is so damn important that that injury alone can destroy a whole season.