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Old 03-25-2024, 06:46 PM   #1
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I'll say it again, per Tom Pelissero, the league is planning on enforcing this primarily through fines, not flags. Not a great way to steer outcomes, but go off I guess.
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Old 03-25-2024, 06:54 PM   #2
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I'll say it again, per Tom Pelissero, the league is planning on enforcing this primarily through fines, not flags. Not a great way to steer outcomes, but go off I guess.


Oh, I'm pretty sure fines are a great way to alter how players play the game. Watch any game from the 1980s/1990s and how defenses react to QBs running the ball vs. how they play now. Alot of your ordinary LBs/DLs don't make tens of millions of dollars; those fines make a difference in their take-home pay pretty quickly.
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Oh, I'm pretty sure fines are a great way to alter how players play the game. Watch any game from the 1980s/1990s and how defenses react to QBs running the ball vs. how they play now. Alot of your ordinary LBs/DLs don't make tens of millions of dollars; those fines make a difference in their take-home pay pretty quickly.
Oh for sure. But it won't be random 15 yard penalties that directly impact the game. It'll be a deterrent that changes how guys tackle, which is the point.

(Assuming the reporting is right and they intend on this being mainly handled with fines)
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Oh for sure. But it won't be random 15 yard penalties that directly impact the game. It'll be a deterrent that changes how guys tackle, which is the point.

(Assuming the reporting is right and they intend on this being mainly handled with fines)
The best outcome is that when you start messing with players money, the players union will get involved. So they’re going to push for this enforcement to be very very specific and they will fight back when the nfl overreaches. If it’s about fines that’ll have way more impact than penalties

It’s kind of like the pitch clock. Go enforce this in the preseason, spend a whole year practicing what this is gonna look like, then next year make a more official policy.
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Oh for sure. But it won't be random 15 yard penalties that directly impact the game. It'll be a deterrent that changes how guys tackle, which is the point.

(Assuming the reporting is right and they intend on this being mainly handled with fines)


You don't see how that can effect/impact the outcomes of games?
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Of course. Everything effects outcomes of games. Wtf are we talking about. What it ISN'T is "steering". It's eliminating a dangerous, exploitable tackle. Enforcing it through fines makes it far less impactful on individual games. I was responding to the implication that this was all a way to make the game outcomes easier to control. That makes no sense.
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Of course. Everything effects outcomes of games. Wtf are we talking about. What it ISN'T is "steering". It's eliminating a dangerous, exploitable tackle. Enforcing it through fines makes it far less impactful on individual games. I was responding to the implication that this was all a way to make the game outcomes easier to control. That makes no sense.


Ah, okay. Yeah, I must've missed the part about steering. Wasn't thinking about that at all.
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