Buying a new pickup

[HonestChieffan]

Im in the market to buy a new pickup. Ive looked at everything I can study and have settled in on what I want. Ive used the build sites to choose options and what not. Now it time to actually talk to a dealer.

Ive never bought online or over the phone and that seems like a way to go so I dont have to deal with smarmy salesmen and sales managers and deal closers bullshit.

Looking for any experiences good, bad, what to do not do? It will have to be ordered as I have not found any in inventory anywhere that is what I want

Its a GMC 1/2 ton loaded up outfit, no financing, will pay cash

[seamonster]

Originally Posted by notorious

Spend 70k, don't get a manual. JFC

I'm still in a 22', my friend just traded to a 24'. He said the stereo sucks ass compared to his old 22'. They didn't put a subwoofer in the premium Bose system.

85k truck and that's the cuts they are making. I don't know if it's greed or their cost overhead is insane, but a $13 dollar subwoofer with a $30 amp isn't that hard to squeeze in (Bose cost).

This is why I stopped buying new cars. When the inventory dipped after the chip outage the prices went into orbit. Made no sense to buy new (prices were going to drop and you'd be stuck with a car worth shit that you paid Mercedes money for). Go with a used car and you'll get more equity out of it and can trade it in for a new car if and when things return to sanity.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by seamonster

This is why I stopped buying new cars. When the inventory dipped after the chip outage the prices went into orbit. Made no sense to buy new (prices were going to drop and you'd be stuck with a car worth shit that you paid Mercedes money for). Go with a used car and you'll get more equity out of it and can trade it in for a new car if and when things return to sanity.

When prices go up they don’t come back down to sane levels. You just get to pay 30k for a used piece of shit and 60k for a new piece of shit.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by seamonster

This is why I stopped buying new cars. When the inventory dipped after the chip outage the prices went into orbit. Made no sense to buy new (prices were going to drop and you'd be stuck with a car worth shit that you paid Mercedes money for). Go with a used car and you'll get more equity out of it and can trade it in for a new car if and when things return to sanity.

With business/work, new vehicles make more sense if you get in a trade-in cycle.

I bought 1 new vehicle for personal use, which was a Honda Pilot for my family, and it was at a surprising price (before covid).

Now I don't know what I would do. People keep buying new no matter what the cost is, so the prices will continue deeper into insanity.

[Peter Gibbons]

Originally Posted by notorious

Spend 70k, don't get a manual. JFC

I'm still in a 22', my friend just traded to a 24'. He said the stereo sucks ass compared to his old 22'. They didn't put a subwoofer in the premium Bose system.

85k truck and that's the cuts they are making. I don't know if it's greed or their cost overhead is insane, but a $13 dollar subwoofer with a $30 amp isn't that hard to squeeze in (Bose cost).

Remember when all the UAW workers demanded big raises in their latest contracts? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[KCJake]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Well, its done and delivered and in garage.


Did anyone there consider making it an app on the trucks dash?

That's how Ford does it

[displacedinMN]

knock on wood. that is why I am sticking with my 2015 Ram---with the lifetime warranty.

[seamonster]

Originally Posted by Pablo

When prices go up they don’t come back down to sane levels. You just get to pay 30k for a used piece of shit and 60k for a new piece of shit.

I bought a 2019 in 2022 and it was 40% less than what the owner paid in 2019.

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Why don't you just pull it up on a computer and print it yourself?

at 400 pages plus Id rather not

[jd1020]

I cant imagine spending $70K+ in this market. Like a year away from being $20k underwater.

I'm looking at 2022 Nissan Frontiers because its one of the few midsize trucks (I dont need a fullsize) that is made in America and not Mexico or some other cheap labor country, and its one of 2 engines that isn't switching to a turbo engine. For average yearly miles in good condition those are just starting to hit $28k and even that is a gut punch. 4 years ago it would have been $18k.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

at 400 pages plus Id rather not

Wow, that's a lot. I understand.

[Lzen]

I guess I don't know why they can't just give you that printed manual (if you ask) when you just spent 70k on a truck.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons

Remember when all the UAW workers demanded big raises in their latest contracts? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember when the labor cost of each vehicle is only 7%? Manufacturing professionals remember.

[bsp4444]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I cant imagine spending $70K+ in this market. Like a year away from being $20k underwater.

I'm looking at 2022 Nissan Frontiers because its one of the few midsize trucks (I dont need a fullsize) that is made in America and not Mexico or some other cheap labor country, and its one of 2 engines that isn't switching to a turbo engine. For average yearly miles in good condition those are just starting to hit $28k and even that is a gut punch. 4 years ago it would have been $18k.

Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon...built right here in Missouri.

[BEAVER]

When they give you the price always ask if that is in Canadian dollars.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by bsp4444

Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon...built right here in Missouri.

Ya I know, but both went to smaller engines with turbos. I keep my vehicles til they stop working, so the straight V6 that Nissan has had around since 2005 and is proven reliable is much more appealing to me. Plus you can get them cheaper.