Ty Cobb is second now

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut

The folklore and mythology is amazing. The fact is, they announced this in 2020 after Floyd. It was a reactionary move. You could honor them without adding stats from seven separate leagues.

And then they even chose an arbitrary cutoff of 1948. Hank Aaron played briefly for a Negro League team in the 50s but those stats aren't included.

It was two different levels of ball. Bill James calculated the Negro Leagues to be at AA-AAA level. Folks rag on the white players of the time for not facing all the best talent but then say hey the Negro Leaguers are easily as good despite facing at best 1/5 of the best talent of the era.

Baseball Fever has a great thread on the topic: https://www.baseball-fever.com/forum...rd-books/page2

Yeah I mean... I'm torn on putting Gibson at #1 but at the same time don't feel sorry for cobb being put at #2. Even if negro league talent on average wasn't as good, if you took the top negro league pitchers it would bump up the quality of pitching cobb saw. I mean Japanese leagues are way worse than MLB but imagine what a loss it would be not have ohtani be a part of it. Someone else would've cleaned up those mvps.