2024 COPA America Thread

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Canada 0 : 0 Chile

▪ xG: 1.3 - 0.43
▪ xThreat: 1.18 - 1.11
▪ Possession: 56.1% - 43.9%
▪ Field Tilt: 53.5% - 46.5%
▪ Def Action Height: 40.7 - 46.3 pic.twitter.com/etSdgyWysn

— markstats bot (@markstatsbot) June 30, 2024

Does advancing out of the group in Copa even count if you only triple your opponent’s expected goal total in the match?

We had 7 corners in the first half when like 5 before the red and majority of possession once we ice we knew we needed only a draw we played not to lose , if we were better in the final third we would Luke have won that game easily , it got sloppy in the middle because we lost our cool because they were dicks .

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by Monticore

We had 7 corners in the first half when like 5 before the red and majority of possession once we ice we knew we needed only a draw we played not to lose , if we were better in the final third we would Luke have won that game easily , it got sloppy in the middle because we lost our cool because they were dicks .

The difference is some countries are punished for losing their cool like we were and some are not for some reason. It’s why the major discussion so far has been about the poor officiating and poor playing fields. Not sure how this wasn’t even a card, but a player tripping over himself during a shoulder to shoulder was somehow enough for a second yellow. If you were better in the final third you wouldn’t be able to say you were the first team in over 20 years to advance out of your group with only 1 goal (that came while playing up a man) That’s just who Canada is. It’s what comes when your only world class player is a fullback. He can only carry you so much.

Canada's lucky they're not down a player after this Bombito elbow #CopaAmerica2024 pic.twitter.com/2Q36RL9CFA

— Albert (@AlbertVartanian) June 30, 2024

RED CARD FOR CHILE 🟥

Gabriel Suazo receives a second yellow 27 minutes into the match and Chile is down to 10-players! pic.twitter.com/DNRAU0fiy7

— FOX Soccer (@FOXSoccer) June 30, 2024

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

The difference is some countries are punished for losing their cool like we were and some are not for some reason. It’s why the major discussion so far has been about the poor officiating and poor playing fields. Not sure how this wasn’t even a card, but a player tripping over himself during a shoulder to shoulder was somehow enough for a second yellow. If you were better in the final third you wouldn’t be able to say you were the first team in over 20 years to advance out of your group with only 1 goal (that came while playing up a man) That’s just who Canada is. It’s what comes when your only world class player is a fullback. He can only carry you so much.

Canada's lucky they're not down a player after this Bombito elbow #CopaAmerica2024 pic.twitter.com/2Q36RL9CFA

— Albert (@AlbertVartanian) June 30, 2024

RED CARD FOR CHILE 🟥

Gabriel Suazo receives a second yellow 27 minutes into the match and Chile is down to 10-players! pic.twitter.com/DNRAU0fiy7

— FOX Soccer (@FOXSoccer) June 30, 2024

That second yellow was because of the area the foul took place it was clear push in the back taking away a scoring opportunity, that elbow should have been red for sure but Canada was controlling the play even when they were even , the should just play davies on the wing he is a def liability anyways. Let him cook.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by Monticore

That second yellow was because of the area the foul took place it was clear push in the back taking away a scoring opportunity, that elbow should have been red for sure but Canada was controlling the play even when they were even , the should just play davies on the wing he is a def liability anyways. Let him cook.

Do you have any better camera angles of this clear push to the back, because it’s obviously not very clear from the replay they show. I’d say the elbow to the face was much more clear wouldn’t you?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Monticore

We had 7 corners in the first half when like 5 before the red and majority of possession once we ice we knew we needed only a draw we played not to lose , if we were better in the final third we would Luke have won that game easily , it got sloppy in the middle because we lost our cool because they were dicks .

Oh you don’t need to tell me, I actually watched the game unlike the Berhalter backer here. Canada outplayed them with both 11 and 10 men on the field, were clearly the superior squad under any circumstance, and it was quite obvious they shut it down some offensively after Argentina scored in the other game. Marsch admitted to it after the game.

Still waiting to hear how getting results against Peru and Chile to advance is an embarrassment compared to getting grouped out by Panama at home.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Still waiting to hear how getting results against Peru and Chile to advance is an embarrassment compared to getting grouped out by Panama at home.

Sorry, I didn’t realize you wanted me to speed up time to Monday to see if your prediction somehow holds up dumbass. If group play was over right now the US would be advancing right? So what are you talking about? If we somehow fail to score a goal on Monday and put in an embarrassing effort like Canada did last night you better believe I’ll be embarrassed as shit about how far we’ve fallen off since giving Berhalter another chance for some unknown reason. Wouldn’t be as embarrassing as scoring 1 goal in group play when we played up a man for essentially a whole match, though.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

Sorry, I didn’t realize you wanted me to speed up time to Monday to see if your prediction somehow holds up dumbass. If group play was over right now the US would be advancing right? So what are you talking about? If we somehow fail to score a goal on Monday and put in an embarrassing effort like Canada did last night you better believe I’ll be embarrassed as shit about how far we’ve fallen off since giving Berhalter another chance for some unknown reason. Wouldn’t be as embarrassing as scoring 1 goal in group play when we played up a man for essentially a whole match, though.

Just commenting on the hilarious irony of someone bitching about "embarrassing" win/draw results against Peru and Chile to advance while simultaneously defending losing to Panama at home. So you think the US is beating Uruguay next, do you?

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Just commenting on the hilarious irony of someone bitching about "embarrassing" win/draw results against Peru and Chile to advance while simultaneously defending losing to Panama at home. So you think the US is beating Uruguay next, do you?

I’m not surprised that you haven’t figured out the whole red card element and how it has a huge impact on the outcomes of these matches since you’re relatively new to the sport likely. I absolutely think we will beat Uruguay on Monday. I think this team has enough talent to play with anyone if they can keep all 11 on the pitch. Just like I don’t think Canada is good enough to beat anyone in their group 11 v 11

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

I’m not surprised that you haven’t figured out the whole red card element and how it has a huge impact on the outcomes of these matches since you’re relatively new to the sport likely. I absolutely think we will beat Uruguay on Monday. I think this team has enough talent to play with anyone if they can keep all 11 on the pitch. Just like I don’t think Canada is good enough to beat anyone in their group 11 v 11

Yeah, I’m not surprised that the guy who thought Canada’s current manager was coaching a year ago (when he started last month) or the guy who thought Canada had no chance against Peru or Chile (only to get results against both and advance) is still believing in a Berhalter-led US squad against a far superior opponent.

It’s gonna be funny watching you go down with the Berhalter ship on Monday in any case. Tonight it will be Mexico first.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yeah, I’m not surprised that the guy who thought Canada’s current manager was coaching a year ago (when he started last month) or the guy who thought Canada had no chance against Peru or Chile (only to get results against both and advance) is still believing in a Berhalter-led US squad against a far superior opponent.

It’s gonna be funny watching you go down with the Berhalter ship on Monday in any case. Tonight it will be Mexico first.

Far superior team? The US is the highest ranked team in the group dumbass. Not surprising you didn’t know that since you tried to claim you were far superior to all the South American teams when you’re the lowest ranked team in your group. All Canada has shown us is how any team can get lucky in this game if they park the bus and let the other teams implode. Do you think you’ll score a goal this tournament in an 11 v 11 situation?

No one outside of the couple hundred Canadian fans know anything about your coaching timeline. When you’re not even a top 40 team in the world your news doesn’t really travel around outside your region

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Still waiting to hear how getting results against Peru and Chile to advance is an embarrassment compared to getting grouped out by Panama at home.

And I expect I’ll keep waiting.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

And I expect I’ll keep waiting.

Best of luck to Canada for sure. We’ll have to see if they can keep the red card streak alive to have a chance at a goal again. Would be a huge accomplishment for them to finally finish a major international tournament without a negative symbol in their goal differential column. Kind of serendipitous that it’s on the 100th anniversary of them forming an international squad. Long time coming!

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

Best of luck to Canada for sure. We’ll have to see if they can keep the red card streak alive to have a chance at a goal again. Would be a huge accomplishment for them to finally finish a major international tournament without a negative symbol in their goal differential column. Kind of serendipitous that it’s on the 100th anniversary of them forming an international squad. Long time coming!

The US just had an xG of 0.29 in a game they absolutely needed to both score and win. I’d be more worried about USA’s complete inability to generate offense against good teams myself (in addition to only now being 1 spot ahead of Canada in ELO despite way more raw talent).

Good luck with Berhalter for the next 2 years, you’re gonna need it.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

The US just had an xG of 0.29 in a game they absolutely needed to both score and win. I’d be more worried about USA’s complete inability to generate offense against good teams myself (in addition to only now being 1 spot ahead of Canada in ELO despite way more raw talent).

Good luck with Berhalter for the next 2 years, you’re gonna need it.

The next 2 years will be a cakewalk through CONCACAF to get our hopes up again. I truly hope Canada can find like 8 or 9 more solid players to get Davies the help he needs to hopefully be able to create more competition in the region. Canada becoming even mediocre would benefit Mexico and the USA greatly in the long run.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

The next 2 years will be a cakewalk through CONCACAF to get our hopes up again. I truly hope Canada can find like 8 or 9 more solid players to get Davies the help he needs to hopefully be able to create more competition in the region. Canada becoming even mediocre would benefit Mexico and the USA greatly in the long run.

excluding Mexico: pic.twitter.com/GhEdNjSx9U

— Justin Moran (@kickswish) July 2, 2024